09-17-2008, 12:46 PM
karsen Wrote:
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> Filliam H. Muffman Wrote:
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> > karsen Wrote:
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> > > I didn't read the article.
> > >
> >
> > Oh great, don't let something like the facts
> color
> > your opinions. 8-) Have you ever tried to fire
> > someone represented by a union or a strong
> > contract?
>
> I didn't read the article because I don't see a
> link to the article because I happen to have the
> original poster blocked. I've read articles about
> this though and from what you've all posted here
> the above article is more of the same.
>
> The only opinion I need to have is a State Trooper
> who tased a child SHOULD BE FIRED! I don't care
> who the governor was, it's irrelevant. I don't
> care that the child "asked him to do it" that's a
> laughable excuse. A taser can EASILY kill a child
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/health/207168_tasers
> 10.html. If the child died would you still defend
> this clown? The other incidents involving the
> Trooper are icing on the cake.
>
> I think if this was some other Governor,
> especially a Democratic one and not he Republican
> VP nominee, I bet most f you would be glad the
> trooper was fired. To me it's your opinions of
> Palin that are getting in the way of the facts.
>
> So let's just pretend for a minute you have a
> child, and your kids sees a cop and asks the cop
> to tase him. The cop does, because "heck, the kid
> asked me to do it." Would you want the cop fired,
> or not?
Karsen, on the face of it, I might agree with you, but read this excerpt from Wiki, and see what you think about it:
Taser incident
Wooten was also found to have violated department policy in using a Taser on his then 11-year old stepson in 2003; he told investigators that he did so "in a training capacity" after the child had asked to be tased in order to show his cousin, Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol, that he "wasn't a mama's boy".[30][13] In a statement to the police, the boy said "that he wanted to be tased to show that he's not a mommy's boy in front of Bristol. Following being tased he went upstairs to tell his mother that he was fine."[17] In a statement to the police, Molly McCann said "she was up stairs giving a bath to the kids ? Mike was going to show Payton what it feels like and she told Mike that he better not."[17] According to Molly's account, she remained upstairs during the incident.
In a September 2008 newspaper interview Wooten said that he "deeply regretted" the Taser incident.[31] He said that he set the Taser to "test" mode, meaning that it was on low power. Wooten added that he attached clips to the child rather than firing darts from a gun, that he turned on the power for less than one second, and that afterwards his stepson "thought it was great and wanted to do it all over again". He stated that "everyone laughed about" the incident at the time.[31] He also said that he "would like to put this behind me and get on with my life", and wished Palin and her family good luck.[31] According to a spokesman for Taser International, "if the Taser is fired for just a second, it would feel like your funny bone was hit."[30]
Although the Taser incident happened in 2003, it was not reported to police until on or after April 11, 2005, the day that Molly McCann filed for divorce. On June 6, 2005, Sgt. Ron Wall, a police investigator, asked Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol why they "waited so long and brought the incident up after two years." Bristol said "because of the divorce."[17]
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it smacks to me of an overblown issue, one which was only brought up because of divorce proceedings, and which certainly shouldn't be used as the basis for firing someone... and actually, the fact that it was a marital issue which was brought up for use to try to get someone fired is itself a bit suspicious...
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> Filliam H. Muffman Wrote:
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> > karsen Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > I didn't read the article.
> > >
> >
> > Oh great, don't let something like the facts
> color
> > your opinions. 8-) Have you ever tried to fire
> > someone represented by a union or a strong
> > contract?
>
> I didn't read the article because I don't see a
> link to the article because I happen to have the
> original poster blocked. I've read articles about
> this though and from what you've all posted here
> the above article is more of the same.
>
> The only opinion I need to have is a State Trooper
> who tased a child SHOULD BE FIRED! I don't care
> who the governor was, it's irrelevant. I don't
> care that the child "asked him to do it" that's a
> laughable excuse. A taser can EASILY kill a child
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/health/207168_tasers
> 10.html. If the child died would you still defend
> this clown? The other incidents involving the
> Trooper are icing on the cake.
>
> I think if this was some other Governor,
> especially a Democratic one and not he Republican
> VP nominee, I bet most f you would be glad the
> trooper was fired. To me it's your opinions of
> Palin that are getting in the way of the facts.
>
> So let's just pretend for a minute you have a
> child, and your kids sees a cop and asks the cop
> to tase him. The cop does, because "heck, the kid
> asked me to do it." Would you want the cop fired,
> or not?
Karsen, on the face of it, I might agree with you, but read this excerpt from Wiki, and see what you think about it:
Taser incident
Wooten was also found to have violated department policy in using a Taser on his then 11-year old stepson in 2003; he told investigators that he did so "in a training capacity" after the child had asked to be tased in order to show his cousin, Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol, that he "wasn't a mama's boy".[30][13] In a statement to the police, the boy said "that he wanted to be tased to show that he's not a mommy's boy in front of Bristol. Following being tased he went upstairs to tell his mother that he was fine."[17] In a statement to the police, Molly McCann said "she was up stairs giving a bath to the kids ? Mike was going to show Payton what it feels like and she told Mike that he better not."[17] According to Molly's account, she remained upstairs during the incident.
In a September 2008 newspaper interview Wooten said that he "deeply regretted" the Taser incident.[31] He said that he set the Taser to "test" mode, meaning that it was on low power. Wooten added that he attached clips to the child rather than firing darts from a gun, that he turned on the power for less than one second, and that afterwards his stepson "thought it was great and wanted to do it all over again". He stated that "everyone laughed about" the incident at the time.[31] He also said that he "would like to put this behind me and get on with my life", and wished Palin and her family good luck.[31] According to a spokesman for Taser International, "if the Taser is fired for just a second, it would feel like your funny bone was hit."[30]
Although the Taser incident happened in 2003, it was not reported to police until on or after April 11, 2005, the day that Molly McCann filed for divorce. On June 6, 2005, Sgt. Ron Wall, a police investigator, asked Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol why they "waited so long and brought the incident up after two years." Bristol said "because of the divorce."[17]
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it smacks to me of an overblown issue, one which was only brought up because of divorce proceedings, and which certainly shouldn't be used as the basis for firing someone... and actually, the fact that it was a marital issue which was brought up for use to try to get someone fired is itself a bit suspicious...