08-11-2009, 08:46 PM
Geez, you guys are rigid fuddy duddys.
The point Ironmac is to get yourself up into a beautiful environment. There are many beautiful climbs on earth where ladders are installed on difficult sections (Half Dome in Yosemite for instance) If it's wrong to use a ladder is it also wrong to use ropes, crampons, and all the other paraphernalia mountain climbers use (and in fact on Everest ascents pro climbers use ladders to help get through the icefields near the base).
Vikm, no it is not just about pushing yourself while enduring pain. It is about challenge, accomplishment, immersing yourself in a unique and beautiful environment etc. If you don't understand things like that then how can you understand any kind of human challenge, competition or accomplishment?
The point Ironmac is to get yourself up into a beautiful environment. There are many beautiful climbs on earth where ladders are installed on difficult sections (Half Dome in Yosemite for instance) If it's wrong to use a ladder is it also wrong to use ropes, crampons, and all the other paraphernalia mountain climbers use (and in fact on Everest ascents pro climbers use ladders to help get through the icefields near the base).
Vikm, no it is not just about pushing yourself while enduring pain. It is about challenge, accomplishment, immersing yourself in a unique and beautiful environment etc. If you don't understand things like that then how can you understand any kind of human challenge, competition or accomplishment?