Our modern habits are reckless

[silvarios]

I've spilled coffee on myself coming straigh out of a commercial brewer, it did not result in permanent scarification of skin under my clothing. The plaintiff in that case had third degree burns over 6% of her body and required skin grafts. She was sitting in a parked car at the time of the accident. The case was bona fide.

[SteveG]

Facebook gifts has a special on hand baskets. You young'ens know what you can do with it.

[decay]

at least smokers don't blame anyone else for getting them hooked.

[RAMd®d]

We don't need laws about phones.

BS.

It's been demonstrated ad nauseum that we do.


We need to instill this simple notion in our male folk.

Ah, it's just a problem with our "male folk"?

More BS.


On the other hand, don't dare tell me what I can or can't do if I'm not bothering you

And on the other hand, if you are bothering me to the point of endangering me or my friends, family, or anybody else but yourself, not only will I dare tell you what you can or can't do, I will stop you from doing it. AND I will do whatever I can to PREVENT you from doing the aforementioned, whether it's voting for or enforcing laws that do so.

A word to the wise is obviously not effective enough.

[Grumpyguy]

Laws never stop stupid people and I'm politely going to disagree that you have to right to tell me to stop doing something that isn't hurting you.

As for drivers that weave while talking on a phone, isn't there a law already on the books for that? Changing lanes illegally, failure to stay in one's lane. Why do we need another law? Just enforce those on the book already.

Nope, let's pass another law that will absolutely do nothing to stop bad drivers from making poor decisions.

I was just talking about men in this case as I see more men not being able to drive the speed limit and talk.

Feel free to opine about women.

As for men, I see men driving like, well, not real men. A real man can talk on his phone, stay at the speed limit, and stay in his lane. Or a true man knows his limitations and doesn't use his phone while driving.

Apparently a lot of men can't and they shouldn't. Laws won't change their behavior, but social shaming might well do the trick. Parents and friends and loved ones ought to step up to the plate and tell them no.

The more laws you create, the more everyday, ordinary acts become criminalized, thus making most people criminals. That is when people tend to start disregarding not only the nonsensical laws, but also those which are required and they start to lose respect for those who enforce the laws as well.

Now back to the topic at hand. It wasn't a phone call which caused this wreck, it was physics. Maybe we ought to pass a law suspending it on dangerous curves on train tracks.... After all, physics in this case was a danger to others!

RAMd®d wrote:
We don't need laws about phones.

BS.

It's been demonstrated ad nauseum that we do.


We need to instill this simple notion in our male folk.

Ah, it's just a problem with our "male folk"?

More BS.


On the other hand, don't dare tell me what I can or can't do if I'm not bothering you

And on the other hand, if you are bothering me to the point of endangering me or my friends, family, or anybody else but yourself, not only will I dare tell you what you can or can't do, I will stop you from doing it. AND I will do whatever I can to PREVENT you from doing the aforementioned, whether it's voting for or enforcing laws that do so.

A word to the wise is obviously not effective enough.

[davester]

What Ramd@d said. It has been completely proven that driver's cannot safely talk on the cell phone and drive in traffic. It's also been proven that those who think they can can't. We definitely need such laws so that those who think they can safely use the cell while driving don't kill the rest of us.

On the other hand, the premise of the original post is completely wrong since the driver was NOT talking on his cell phone and his actual phone call does not appear to be the cause of the crash.

[decay]

let's add eating and smoking and changing your music while driving.

also, reprimanding your kids in the back seat.

[N-OS X-tasy!]

silvarios wrote:
I've spilled coffee on myself coming straigh out of a commercial brewer, it did not result in permanent scarification of skin under my clothing. The plaintiff in that case had third degree burns over 6% of her body and required skin grafts. She was sitting in a parked car at the time of the accident. The case was bona fide.

The legitimacy of that case and its outcome was established long ago.

Unfortunately, that event has become something of a pop culture touchstone, albeit in an inaccurate way.

[N-OS X-tasy!]

decay wrote:
at least smokers don't blame anyone else for getting them hooked.

There are many current and pending lawsuits to the contrary.

[Lux Interior]

Grumpyguy wrote:
Laws never stop stupid people and I'm politely going to disagree that you have to right to tell me to stop doing something that isn't hurting you.

I think he was quite clear that he meant things that are not hurting anyone immediately, but are in danger of doing so.

For example, doing 40 MPH in 25 MPH residential zone. You can do it every day for your entire life and not hurt anyone, but the potential is there and people have every right to tell you to slow down.