car salespeople: how much do they make?

[C(-)ris]

Hopefully the “salesman” as we know it will be gone soon. Especially with new cars, There really isn’t any reason for them to exist except to screw people over. Everyone should be paying the same price for a new car. Anyone can find out what a car is worth on the internet and shop around for dealers. If you want to test drive you don’t need a sales person for that. Tesla has the right model for new cars, dealers know this, and that is why they are kicking and screaming claiming it is unfair.

Used cars on the other hand are a different story.

[Buzz]

Mr645 wrote:
New car dealerships often do not turn a profit selling new cars. They rely on service and used car sales.

A lotta truth in that one.
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[Speedy]

Buzz wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
New car dealerships often do not turn a profit selling new cars. They rely on service and used car sales.

A lotta truth in that one.
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Now, with electrics, the manufacturers are going to have to see that the above remains the case to save the dealers. Except for tire rotation, my 46k on the odometer Volt's next service is 51k miles from right now.

[sekker]

Speedy wrote:
[quote=Buzz]
[quote=Mr645]
New car dealerships often do not turn a profit selling new cars. They rely on service and used car sales.

A lotta truth in that one.
==
Now, with electrics, the manufacturers are going to have to see that the above remains the case to save the dealers. Except for tire rotation, my 46k on the odometer Volt's next service is 51k miles from right now.
This is EXACTLY why dealers are fighting the sale of electric vehicles such as Teslas.

I've been surprised at how well the Volts and Bolts have been adopted by standard dealerships. Maybe they are assuming that the special electrical repair tools will require everyone to go back to the dealerships...

[Speedy]

sekker wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
[quote=Buzz]
[quote=Mr645]
New car dealerships often do not turn a profit selling new cars. They rely on service and used car sales.

A lotta truth in that one.
==
Now, with electrics, the manufacturers are going to have to see that the above remains the case to save the dealers. Except for tire rotation, my 46k on the odometer Volt's next service is 51k miles from right now.
This is EXACTLY why dealers are fighting the sale of electric vehicles such as Teslas.

I've been surprised at how well the Volts and Bolts have been adopted by standard dealerships. Maybe they are assuming that the special electrical repair tools will require everyone to go back to the dealerships...
I took my Volt to the stealer shortly after I bought it for a software update. I think I had five or six 'important' updates installed for $25 each. I imagine it took all of half an hour or so. There were quite a number of lesser software updates that could have been installed but those would have set me back another $1250 or so. I passed.

Volt production is being idled and I think the 2018 model Volt may be the last model year produced. The Bolt is the favorite child now because it is probably much cheaper to make and is more of a CUV than a sedan like the Volt. My ideal would be a Volt for long trips and a Bolt as our daily driver. We rarely drive over 200 miles a day anymore so the Bolt would serve us quite well. And the Volt also covers 95%+ of our driving on battery alone so it would be just fine as a second daily driver but it would get us anywhere an ICE sedan would when needed.

[mrbigstuff]

There will probably be many hacks for getting into the main ecu in the electric car of the future, so I can imagine dealers are also worried about that

[MrNoBody]

Mr645 wrote:
New car dealerships often do not turn a profit selling new cars. They rely on service and used car sales.

and financing.
Dealers & their sales folks receive 'incentives' for it.
BMW & GM reportedly have been getting buyers into contracts they know will default;
just to boost their sales figures on the balance sheets.
Reminiscent of the home mortgage debacle a few years back?

[sekker]

Speedy wrote:
[quote=sekker]
[quote=Speedy]
[quote=Buzz]
[quote=Mr645]
New car dealerships often do not turn a profit selling new cars. They rely on service and used car sales.

A lotta truth in that one.
==
Now, with electrics, the manufacturers are going to have to see that the above remains the case to save the dealers. Except for tire rotation, my 46k on the odometer Volt's next service is 51k miles from right now.
This is EXACTLY why dealers are fighting the sale of electric vehicles such as Teslas.

I've been surprised at how well the Volts and Bolts have been adopted by standard dealerships. Maybe they are assuming that the special electrical repair tools will require everyone to go back to the dealerships...
I took my Volt to the stealer shortly after I bought it for a software update. I think I had five or six 'important' updates installed for $25 each. I imagine it took all of half an hour or so. There were quite a number of lesser software updates that could have been installed but those would have set me back another $1250 or so. I passed.

Volt production is being idled and I think the 2018 model Volt may be the last model year produced. The Bolt is the favorite child now because it is probably much cheaper to make and is more of a CUV than a sedan like the Volt. My ideal would be a Volt for long trips and a Bolt as our daily driver. We rarely drive over 200 miles a day anymore so the Bolt would serve us quite well. And the Volt also covers 95%+ of our driving on battery alone so it would be just fine as a second daily driver but it would get us anywhere an ICE sedan would when needed.
Wow - $25/update. Amazing, but I guess they have to find a way to replace charges. Too bad the Volt is underselling - I think a lot of the same buyers are putting $$ down for a Tesla Model3. If I were buying a NEW card now, I'd likely consider a Tesla as a second car.