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Did Astros use a buzzing device to communicate pitches?
#11
3d wrote:
If I was a zealous fan in the outfield with a pair of high powered binoculars, could i yell out a WOOOOOOoooo!!! every time I see the opposing catcher signal a fastball coming? This is ok right? I mean, if I go to every single home game, the home team will be able to catch on soon... Just need to find a "rain man" type buddy to accompany me to decipher the signals.


I think mlb banned the official use of binoculars in the outfield to block this form of cheating.

If you have $6B Man eyes (inflation, you know!), I think you’d be good according to current rules.
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#12
3d wrote:
If I was a zealous fan in the outfield with a pair of high powered binoculars, could i yell out a WOOOOOOoooo!!! every time I see the opposing catcher signal a fastball coming? This is ok right? I mean, if I go to every single home game, the home team will be able to catch on soon... Just need to find a "rain man" type buddy to accompany me to decipher the signals.


Actually, that IS ok. Sign stealing is a part of baseball. But this year the commissioner specified "electronics" as NOT ok to management.
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#13
Rolando wrote:
Sign stealing is a part of baseball.

Admittedly, I'm not a baseball fan. But that simple statement is troubling on its own.
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#14
sekker wrote:
I think mlb banned the official use of binoculars in the outfield to block this form of cheating.

Then you'll just have to bring an SX50 instead!
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#15
I think mlb banned the official use of binoculars in the outfield


By the use of fans?

(I don't follow baseball.)
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#16
RAMd®d wrote:
I think mlb banned the official use of binoculars in the outfield


By the use of fans?

(I don't follow baseball.)

No, by the teams. Fans can do whatever they like so long as the teams aren’t getting info. That’s the point.
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#18
It's really not that tough to keep signs form being stolen. Pretty much like two (or three) factor password verification. Catcher flashes factor one signs pursuant to a predetermined algorithm, which tells pitcher (factor two) which one (or two) of three or four coaches/players to look at in the dugout, each of whom is posing w/ a sign, pursuant to another algorithm that represents (factor three) the desired pitch, and possibly (factor four) the location.

The poses are natural dugout postures, hand/hands on hip, or knee(s), foot/feet pointed outward, sitting on sunflower seed bucket, etc.. With the algorithms changing/rotating frequently, there's no way the opposing team is gonna be able steal the signs, because of all the possible permutations that could possibly represent the actual pitch. Even if a player is traded, and knows the algorithms (which could be changed easily enough), their new team wouldn't be able to benefit.

While I appreciate the attention this scandal brings to MLB, it's much ado about what should be nothing at all. No technology required. Let as many people in the bleachers with binoculars have at it; they'll never get the right signal to the batter or runner(s) any more reliably than just guessing.
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#19
I heard on the radio this morning that if they kicked out every player involved most teams would get gutted, thus MLB won't punish them to any great extent.
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#20
Racer X wrote:
I heard on the radio this morning that if they kicked out every player involved most teams would get gutted, thus MLB won't punish them to any great extent.

Yes, but if some players are wearing wires and some are just listening to drums, the intent and complicity are different.
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