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Sorry about the price -- I had 3 friends/clients/peeps sitting on the fence but they got in the $1700 deal from 2 weeks ago.
A few more bicep curls and the weight will feel like nothing. =)
I'm not particularly concerned about what I paid for this one. However, I'd like to buy about 400 more of them to replace the rest of our MacBook Air fleet, but $2000 per laptop or even $1700 is prohibitive. Probably going to have to wait at least another year or take the performance and value hit on the M1 Air.
I have a 14" MBP on order to do this similar comparison. But I'm leaning towards getting 16/1TB MBAs due to the true all-day battery life.
Are you seeing a value in the 16GB models vs the 8GB? I've been looking at my users usage and very few seem to use more than 8GB of ram. CPU and GPU? Zoom and Airplay max those out consistently.
Scientific use - at least some of the time suggests the $$ on RaM is well-spent. These will also be in use for 5 years or more.
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Are you seeing a value in the 16GB models vs the 8GB? I've been looking at my users usage and very few seem to use more than 8GB of ram. CPU and GPU? Zoom and Airplay max those out consistently.
8 GB on intel MBs, or M1s?
Deadhorse beating, but M1 ram just isn't the same.
Wife has a M1 mini, VPN into her PC all day, and 3 zooms today, one over 2 hours. Smooth as butter. Maybe not 100% the mini, since we have 300/300 FiOS, but regardless, its trouble free. Doubt she ever maxes the ram.
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From what I've read, if you keep at your ssd at less than 80% full, RAM doesn't make much of a difference. Not sure how true this.
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Are you seeing a value in the 16GB models vs the 8GB? I've been looking at my users usage and very few seem to use more than 8GB of ram. CPU and GPU? Zoom and Airplay max those out consistently.
8 GB on intel MBs, or M1s?
Deadhorse beating, but M1 ram just isn't the same.
Wife has a M1 mini, VPN into her PC all day, and 3 zooms today, one over 2 hours. Smooth as butter. Maybe not 100% the mini, since we have 300/300 FiOS, but regardless, its trouble free. Doubt she ever maxes the ram.
I just checked, this M1 iMac is using 14GB of RAM without any special programs running. It's a sweet ride. I wonder what it would be like if it only had 8GB - might be a little bit bumpier moving to virtual via SSD.
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Coming from an Air I am not surprised that the weight is noticeable to you.
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I just checked, this M1 iMac is using 14GB of RAM without any special programs running. It's a sweet ride. I wonder what it would be like if it only had 8GB - might be a little bit bumpier moving to virtual via SSD.
If you go back a week or so I posted some videos of a 14" MBP w/16 GB using nearly 10 GB of swap... and there was practically zero slow down.
Admittedly the M1P chip has higher everything vs M1, but they were throwing everything at it -- but kept up nicely.
My 2014 iMac w/32 Gb of ram is always using 10-15 GB of swap...but even with a external NVMe boot (only @ 400 MB/s) i can feel it. =(
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Are you seeing a value in the 16GB models vs the 8GB? I've been looking at my users usage and very few seem to use more than 8GB of ram. CPU and GPU? Zoom and Airplay max those out consistently.
8 GB on intel MBs, or M1s?
Deadhorse beating, but M1 ram just isn't the same.
Wife has a M1 mini, VPN into her PC all day, and 3 zooms today, one over 2 hours. Smooth as butter. Maybe not 100% the mini, since we have 300/300 FiOS, but regardless, its trouble free. Doubt she ever maxes the ram.
My users are all currently on 2018 128GB/8GB i5 Intel Macbook Airs. Rarely seeing usage over 8GB for ram. They are constantly running out of CPU and disk space though. I was planning on the low end config 8GB/256GB M1 MBA as a replacement device.
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jdc wrote:
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I just checked, this M1 iMac is using 14GB of RAM without any special programs running. It's a sweet ride. I wonder what it would be like if it only had 8GB - might be a little bit bumpier moving to virtual via SSD.
If you go back a week or so I posted some videos of a 14" MBP w/16 GB using nearly 10 GB of swap... and there was practically zero slow down.
Admittedly the M1P chip has higher everything vs M1, but they were throwing everything at it -- but kept up nicely.
I wonder whether such SSD use were to be chronic would cause wear issues down the road. RAM is designed to be dynamic; SSDs definitely have a lifetime ceiling.
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My users are all currently on 2018 128GB/8GB i5 Intel Macbook Airs. Rarely seeing usage over 8GB for ram. They are constantly running out of CPU and disk space though. I was planning on the low end config 8GB/256GB M1 MBA as a replacement device.
Sounds perfect.
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I wonder whether such SSD use were to be chronic would cause wear issues down the road. RAM is designed to be dynamic; SSDs definitely have a lifetime ceiling.
Perhaps, but we are talking years and years and years?
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