$5 a gallon ? Ok... school me on plug in hybrids like the Volt ?

[jdc]

mikebw wrote:
Up front $$, maybe. Depends on what you are comparing, don't forget about tax the very real tax incentives and rebates out there.

Model Y stock, is Dec delivery. No incentives in CA.

My wifes car, a really nice used 2016 Volvo S60, was $17K, and gets 30-40. Thats about 1/3 the cost of budget EVs.

[August West]

graylocks wrote:
[quote=ztirffritz]
I wouldn’t buy a Volt at this point. It’s time to go full EV. The Volt is a great transition vehicle but the transition is over.

Not for everyone. You refuse to acknowledge that whenever the subject come up. Good for you that at this moment in time for your life needs and where you live a full EV works. you ain't all of us.
+1

[mrbigstuff]

I've said it numerous times but GM discontinuing the Volt tech will be studied in future MBA classes. I just don't get it, it solves so many problems.

[DinerDave]

Here is my two cents on the Volt.

I love this car. It's a 2018 LT, a few goodies like the heated seats, steering wheel, etc.

It is very quiet, no squeaks or rattles, very comfy.
Here is my take on Prius VS Volt....
Long commutes, Prius wins with 55+ MPG.
Shorter runs, the Volt wins, Gen2 has up to 66 miles of pure EV, depending on
driving style, how hard you work heat or AC, EPA says 53 miles, but I'm mid 60's in good
weather where little or no heat/AC is needed, and as low as 40 in winter with heat cranking.
The Volt is now our #1 weekend use car, unless the weather is really poor where we want the Crosstrek's AWD to come into play. Normal use, the 110 charger will charge it just fine overnight, no extra cost L2 charger needed. That said, I bought a L2 charger and had the 240 plug installed in the garage. We were using it faster that the 110 could charge it. After all, keeping the ICE off is a game I want to win.
Still can't complain about the low/mid 40's for MPG's the Volt gets on ICE.

Two more points. I'm an auto enthusiast, and want some fun. The Volt will feel fast with all that torque if you want it to.
I recall a Car and Driver review of the Prius Prime a few years ago. In the "Pro-Con" section... PRO, Superior MPG's
CON, Driving experience as exciting as folding laundry.

Weekdays, work and back, hardly use ICE. Weekends, some longer trips needing the gas ICE. Currently, my lifetime MPG is 104.7 MPG. Filled the tank 5 times since Sept, so about every 6 weeks or so.

For me, it works great.

Dave

[JoeH]

graylocks wrote:
[quote=Lux Interior]
Too late.

Everyone else will be buying and driving the prices up.

really too late. used Volt prices have skyrocketed with other used car prices in the last year.
Yeah, they have gone up around here also. 2 years ago could get a 2-3 year old Volt for around $16k, now ones around that age for for $20k+. Though there are a few older models listed in the area under $15k.

[mikebw]

The raising cost of all vehicles makes it a moot point. The advantage of EVs is the lower cost of range with electricity versus gas. PHEV are the way for people who need more range than BEV can provide right now.

[RAMd®d]

Geesh.... A pity they stopped making the Volt.


That's the first or second that occurs to me every time I think about an eV.

It will probably be one of my top three favorite eVs (if not 100% eV) for a long, long time.

The other two have yet to materialize.

Maybe the Lucid and Live Wire.

I envy those who scored a Volt.

[Maddog]

Buying a volt was one of my better moves. Getting a second one for my wife, also great! Typical poor business sense for GM to make a great car and then decide to quit making it. I love the PHEV. Don't ever have to worry about charging while out or on a trip and mostly just use the EV part around town and back and forth to work. If you can find a 2018 or 2019 with adaptive cruise (comes on the deluxe packages usually), you should pick one up. The only real downside is that they ride pretty close to the ground, so getting in and out is a small challenge.

[Markintosh]

jdc wrote:

My wifes car, a really nice used 2016 Volvo S60, was $17K, and gets 30-40. Thats about 1/3 the cost of budget EVs.

My first BoltEV was $16.5k used. The second one, new was $20.5k. So I am going to disagree with that statement. There are going to be a lot more options out there in the next year or two.

[vision63]

Markintosh wrote:
[quote=jdc]

My wifes car, a really nice used 2016 Volvo S60, was $17K, and gets 30-40. Thats about 1/3 the cost of budget EVs.

My first BoltEV was $16.5k used. The second one, new was $20.5k. So I am going to disagree with that statement. There are going to be a lot more options out there in the next year or two.
I had one of the first Gen Bolts. I'm curious how they're holding up. Loved it. I gave that one back after a woman crashed her van into it at Lake Merritt in Oakland.

I'm gonna be the last person to settle on an EV. Batteries have to get way better for me. Sitting at an EV-GO charger at 1am in say, Lodi got old. Not using the heater or the air conditioner because it chugs through the range got old. I got so tired of finding somewhere to plug that joker in. Tons of charging stations in SoCal. I don't know what's up with the Bay Area.