How do you Define Patriotism?

[Wags]

Dakota wrote:
There are many. One is not to blame America first in every international dispute that comes along. Ask anyone on the left to name one argument/crisis/war that America was not at fault.

WWII? WWI? Armenian Genocide? German Holocaust? How far back can we go? Rwanda, Darfur, Cambodia, Sudan - there are plenty.

[davester]

Dakota wrote: Ask anyone on the left to name one argument/crisis/war that America was not at fault.

That statement is beyond absurd. Do you get all your data on "the left" from Rush and Fox news?

[kanesa]

Dakota wrote:
There are many. One is not to blame America first in every international dispute that comes along. Ask anyone on the left to name one argument/crisis/war that America was not at fault.

Sounds like something Sarah Palin would say.

[Mac1337]

davester wrote:
[quote=Dakota]Ask anyone on the left to name one argument/crisis/war that America was not at fault.

That statement is beyond absurd.
This is a dead give away when someone can't answer a question.

[Mac1337]

Wags wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
There are many. One is not to blame America first in every international dispute that comes along. Ask anyone on the left to name one argument/crisis/war that America was not at fault.

WWII? WWI? Armenian Genocide? German Holocaust? How far back can we go? Rwanda, Darfur, Cambodia, Sudan - there are plenty.
Other than WWII, which is going way back, in none of the above was US a party to the conflict. Those are the kinds I am talking about.

[davester]

Definition: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson

[Ted King]

Dakota wrote:
[quote=Wags]
[quote=Dakota]
There are many. One is not to blame America first in every international dispute that comes along. Ask anyone on the left to name one argument/crisis/war that America was not at fault.

WWII? WWI? Armenian Genocide? German Holocaust? How far back can we go? Rwanda, Darfur, Cambodia, Sudan - there are plenty.
Other than WWII, which is going way back, in none of the above was US a party to the conflict. Those are the kinds I am talking about.
Somalia. Kosovo. Afghanistan.

[davester]

Dakota wrote:
[quote=davester]
[quote=Dakota]Ask anyone on the left to name one argument/crisis/war that America was not at fault.

That statement is beyond absurd.
This is a dead give away when someone can't answer a question.
Already answered by Wags. What's the point if the original statement is so ridiculous.

Anyway, what's your point? Perhaps the US has been on the wrong side (or not) of all international disputes it was a party to. What does this have to do with right or left? When communication breaks down to the point where military action is instigated, seldom are all parties blameless. Often there are hidden agendas (Iraq being the foremost example of wars that were started due to reasons that the instigators misled the public about). By your standards does it mean you're a patriot if you support 50% (or some other arbitrary number) or more of conflicts, regardless of who is at fault?

[Seacrest]

kanesa wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
There are many. One is not to blame America first in every international dispute that comes along. Ask anyone on the left to name one argument/crisis/war that America was not at fault.

Sounds like something Sarah Palin would say.
Nah, sentence structure is too good.

[mikeylikesit]

The real patriots are the civilians giving their time, energy and money to fight back against big government intrusion on our liberties. It take years of work and patience to get a judge to overturn an illegal government action.

Wearing a lapel pin or not, these are the people who protect us from arbitrary government action, interestingly enough these are the same people the right wing so detests.