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Rick Warren to give the invocation at Obama's inauguration
#11
Here's where I think this is headed. Still way too early, though, to be sure:

During the election, the left wing (predicting liberal salvation) AND the right wing (gleefully predicting doom) looked at Obama and said, "He's a blank slate, he'll do whatever the left tells him to do."

But on the contrary, his blank slate means he's carefully not promised anything specific to anybody. He's free to do whatever he wants, and so far he's tacked right down the middle--which is really where he stayed for most of his campaign, if you look at it at face value. Both the left and the right will be disappointed.

Mr. Warren is a small example.
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#12
Dakota wrote:

My rewrite just for fun,

I'm a flaming conservative in most ways, but I don't see a genuine downside to
Mcain making a gesture like this. If this generates good will and a
sense of investment in the McCain administration from gays,
perhaps we'll suffer thru a less noxious political atmosphere over the
next four years.

I'm glad you had some fun. Is your comment actually supposed to
mean something?
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#13
>>I'm glad you had some fun. Is your comment actually supposed to
mean something?

I thought he was commenting on how difficult it would be to imagine. at least thats what it meant to me

then again, even pro-obama supporters had a hard time imagining him as being our president.
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#14
graylocks wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
Wooing the Evangelicals. Spreading out that big tent. It's going to tick a lot of people off, but it's not like Obama wasn't clear about his aim to be inclusive of groups not normally thought of as potential Democrats.

during the primaries i debated with my more radical friends regarding their support for Obama over Clinton. a hard choice for them in every way but the deal tipper for them is that Clinton was not progressive enough. i asked them if they really thought Obama would be able to govern from as far left a position as they would settle for. they rosily said 'Yes.'

as Obama secured the nomination he tacked more and more to center. i was not surprised. my friends are very disappointed. sometimes i wonder what are they smokin'?
He never tacked to the left, they just assumed he was already there. My friends too. But they're too happy to be disappointed at this juncture. I feel good about nearly everything he's done since being elected. No complaints from my corner and I was (and still am) a strong Clinton supporter.
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#15
I've been looking towards my right side at Obama since the beginning, no surprises here.
Obama made it (quietly) clear weeks before the election that he was not on the side of gay marriage.
I don't see these decisions as being moves to the left or to the right, but as moves borne of strategic thinking, like a chess game. With the end goal not being party dominance, but making the country a better place.



(I hope.)
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#16
Mike Sellers wrote:
[quote=Dakota]My rewrite just for fun,

I'm a flaming conservative in most ways, but I don't see a genuine downside to
Mcain making a gesture like this. If this generates good will and a
sense of investment in the McCain administration from gays,
perhaps we'll suffer thru a less noxious political atmosphere over the
next four years.


So, is this in an alternate universe where McCain won and he invited Barney Frank to give the invocation? :wink:
Something like that. Just shows sometimes you can change the democrat for the republican and you can't tell.
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#17
Black Landlord wrote:
I've been looking towards my right side at Obama since the beginning, no surprises here.
Obama made it (quietly) clear weeks before the election that he was not on the side of gay marriage.
I don't see these decisions as being moves to the left or to the right, but as moves borne of strategic thinking, like a chess game. With the end goal not being party dominance, but making the country a better place.



(I hope.)

I am dissapointed in Warren being his choice. I stand with my Gay brothers and sisters. But who's perfect.
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#18
I'm not gay. Somebody thinks I'm available. Which was interesting. I guess our threads are googled.
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#19
Dakota wrote:
[quote=Mike Sellers]
[quote=Dakota]My rewrite just for fun,

I'm a flaming conservative in most ways, but I don't see a genuine downside to
Mcain making a gesture like this. If this generates good will and a
sense of investment in the McCain administration from gays,
perhaps we'll suffer thru a less noxious political atmosphere over the
next four years.


So, is this in an alternate universe where McCain won and he invited Barney Frank to give the invocation? :wink:
Something like that. Just shows sometimes you can change the democrat for the republican and you can't tell.
that is the funniest thing you have ever said LOL.... ohy wait.
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#20
vision63 wrote:
I'm not gay. Somebody thinks I'm available. Which was interesting. I guess our threads are googled.

Or maybe someone here is hitting on you via another account? You may have a secret admirer.
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