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Are these insane birthers, tea-baggers, etc. helping or hurting the Republican party?
#11
They're reactionaries who find it convenient to blame obama for the changes in the world.

What else can the "no national heathcare - its against the constitution" crowd mean? Its the expression of two ideas through the current political debate, we don't want change, we want a mythical return to our roots.

Unless George Washington's wooden teeth allow us to time travel, there's no going back.
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#12
Dennis S wrote:
[quote=Racer X]
if you stop rambling, and actually tell us what the eff this refers to, maybe there can be some comment.

Rambling, in 2 lines? OK. Here you go, Tonto:

Are stupid/crazy protesters helping or hurting Republican party?
25 to 35% of Americans claim no allegiance to either Dem or zPub party.
the protestors are a mix of Democrats Republicans and neither/nor.

When you stop seeing the world as us/them, you'll figure out why they are there.
But you won't.
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#13
>>the protestors are a mix of Democrats Republicans and neither/nor.

I'm curious what ratio that mix is. for some reason i doubt there are many democrats.
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#14
extremists hurt any political party. Ask the Democratic Party how much they liked Earth First ?

I think these nimrods are a welcome distraction for the Democratic Party- it enables the Democrats to paint all Republicans with the 'wingnut' brush and claim that that's all Republicans care about. And as a result they are damaging the ability of the Republican Party to do anything even marginally useful.

To these noisy fools, I would simply like to say :

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#15
Black wrote:

OK, so you seem to have done a good job at describing the paranoid and the uninformed. What about the rest?

If you are "informed" about the healthcare plan then you know more than Obama and Congress. There is NO bill and you claim to know what is in it?
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#16
Per usual, Dennis can't believe that there are many people in this country that oppose the policies of this administration for what they feel are valid reasons. Dennis may not think their reasons are valid, so he castigates them and belittles them, calling them crazy, stupid and insane because he's not smart enough to verbalize or understand what they oppose. He hasn't taken time to read their blogs or listen to their points of view. It's easier just to call names.

The Democrats are not doing themselves any favors when those in power belittle and marginalize their fellow Americans by using the same tactics as Dennis employs. We the People, regardless of which side of the aisle we stand on, resent being called un-American, Nazis, racists, hicks, uneducated, fear mongers, dumb, stupid, members of the "Cracker Nation", or other pejoratives just because we exercise our right disagree.
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#17
swampy wrote:
Per usual, Dennis can't believe that there are many people in this country that oppose the policies of this administration for what they feel are valid reasons. Dennis may not think their reasons are valid, so he castigates them and belittles them, calling them crazy, stupid and insane because he's not smart enough to verbalize or understand what they oppose. He hasn't taken time to read their blogs or listen to their points of view. It's easier just to call names.

The Democrats are not doing themselves any favors when those in power belittle and marginalize their fellow Americans by using the same tactics as Dennis employs. We the People, regardless of which side of the aisle we stand on, resent being called un-American, Nazis, racists, hicks, uneducated, fear mongers, dumb, stupid, members of the "Cracker Nation", or other pejoratives just because we exercise our right disagree.



But he's the voice of 40% of America.
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#18
Beware...rant warning!

Back in the 1990s, I was involved in college protests against the first Iraq war and was turned off by all of the trust-fund radicals who would disrupt events by claiming that George HW Bush was Hitler incarnate and wishing for a Saddam victory in Iraq. And a few of my leftie pals believe b.s. like a faked moon landing and a 9/11 government conspiracy.

Many of my Republican friends and colleagues feel the same way about how the "Red State rubes" (as one local conservative columnist calls them) have hijacked their party in the sake of ideological purity and anti-intellectualism. Compare the satire Idiocracy with behavior at some of the recent town hall meetings...scary and sad.

Both parties have long had their share of fringe crackpots and lunatics but they were kept in check by sensible leaders in each party, an informed public and an aggressive media. Now, the TV and the Internet would rather shock and titillate than inform. Journalists who used to call these weirdos to task are getting laid off by the thousands and ordinary Americans are too busy or too concerned watching Dancing With the Stars or Monday Night Football to get involved in meaningful political discussions.

Look at all the attention that gets paid to that redneck Congressman from S.C. who yelled at the Prez last week. Even the staid NY Times devoted a headline to the continuing soap opera several days after the event. Whoopie freakin' do. When the news media and politicians stop paling around and begin to seriously dissect meaty issues that really affect me instead of celebrity gossip masquerading as politics, then you can count me back in.
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#19
swampy wrote:
...resent being called un-American, Nazis,...

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#20
>>many people in this country that oppose the policies of this administration for what they feel are valid reasons.

The problem with that statement is that some people's valid reasons have no grounding in reality.

But you knew that.
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