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Lemon Drop wrote:
http://de.reuters.com/news/picture/celeb...UKRTX3505T
These are photos that Reuters posted this week of Christians around the world celebrating Holy Week. You're going to see some pretty unusual and surprising and maybe even frightening looking stuff in there, and probably nothing like you experienced at First United Methodist Church.
Exactly. You have a comparison, something you have seen yourself. But if you have no Jews in your community (like most of rural America), then what? Nothing in the Reuters caption says the pictured event is uncommon amongst practitioners of Judaism.
Why are practitioners of the Moslem faith so feared in the US? Maybe because there are so few moslem communities for reference, and the only things that make the news feeds are attacks by jihadists?
Edit: The following was meant to be in bold, but the forum didn't put it so: " and probably nothing like you experienced at First United Methodist Church"
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neophyte wrote:
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http://de.reuters.com/news/picture/celeb...UKRTX3505T
These are photos that Reuters posted this week of Christians around the world celebrating Holy Week. You're going to see some pretty unusual and surprising and maybe even frightening looking stuff in there, and probably nothing like you experienced at First United Methodist Church.
Exactly. You have a comparison, something you have seen yourself. But if you have no Jews in your community (like most of rural America), then what? Nothing in the Reuters caption says the pictured event is uncommon amongst practitioners of Judaism.
Why are practitioners of the Moslem faith so feared in the US? Maybe because there are so few moslem communities for reference, and the only things that make the news feeds are attacks by jihadists?
It's not the responsibility of international photojournalists at Reuters to reduce willful ignorance and bigotry among Americans. Honestly, you're letting hateful people off the hook like they're helpless puppets not to mention insulting the intelligence of millions of Americans. If someone has access to these photos on the internet, they sure as hell have access to plenty of information to learn the facts about other cultures. Reuters is under no obligation to produce a Dick and Jane slide show about world religions for people you and Steve imagine to be helpless rubes, and how horribly insulting it would be if they did.
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Hey neophyte -
Why don't you get in touch when people start accusing Jews nationwide of being arsonists because of this photo.
Your analogy falls apart when you actually examine everyday practices. People DO call Muslims in the U.S. terrorists based, in part, on distortions in media portrayals of Muslims. People DO call Black Americans criminals based, in part, on disproportionate representation of Black people as criminals in news coverage.
Perhaps the media is suppressing all the reports of anti-Semitic attacks fueled by these incendiary images. (See what I did there?)
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Lemon Drop wrote:
These are photos that Reuters posted this week of Christians around the world celebrating Holy Week. You're going to see some pretty unusual and surprising and maybe even frightening looking stuff in there, and probably nothing like you experienced at First United Methodist Church.
Exactly. You have a comparison, something you have seen yourself. But if you have no Jews in your community (like most of rural America), then what? Nothing in the Reuters caption says the pictured event is uncommon amongst practitioners of Judaism.
Why are practitioners of the Moslem faith so feared in the US? Maybe because there are so few moslem communities for reference, and the only things that make the news feeds are attacks by jihadists?
It's not the responsibility of international photojournalists at Reuters to reduce willful ignorance and bigotry among Americans.
Then you would agree that Breitbart et al have no responsibility to portrait the truth either, correct? That's where your "helpless puppets" learn their "facts about other cultures."
Reuters is under no obligation to produce a Dick and Jane slide show about world religions for people you and Steve imagine to be helpless rubes, and how horribly insulting it would be if they did.
I don't expect a slide show. A fair picture caption, yes.
I'm an educated person with an appreciation of other cultures and religions, and so are you, as are most of the participants in this forum. But quite a few of my neighbors are not so appreciative. Why? Because of web sites they believe are telling the truth (but in reality spew latent distrust of others). And without any positive reference to others in the community who are different (Muslims, Jews, etc.) the neighbors have no reason to think otherwise.
Reuters is not helping. Maybe they're not as bad as Breitbart et al, but they're surely not helping.
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rjmacs wrote:
Hey neophyte -
Why don't you get in touch when people start accusing Jews nationwide of being arsonists because of this photo.
Your analogy falls apart when you actually examine everyday practices. People DO call Muslims in the U.S. terrorists based, in part, on distortions in media portrayals of Muslims. People DO call Black Americans criminals based, in part, on disproportionate representation of Black people as criminals in news coverage.
Perhaps the media is suppressing all the reports of anti-Semitic attacks fueled by these incendiary images. (See what I did there?)
Come off it. I never suggested the photo portrays Jews as arsonists. But the photo does portrait Jews building a fire on a public sidewalk. My community frowns on this practice as a potential public hazard and unsightly custom. Without a Jewish presence in my community, how do the people here know that most Jewish people in general don't do this? The Reuters caption doesn't suggest it. So, some people think "we don't want Jews here, they build fires on public sidewalks". You will say this is an exaggeration; I reply that the negative connotation of Jews has just been latently reinforced. Thanks Reuters, indeed.
"People DO call Muslims in the U.S. terrorists based, in part, on distortions in media portrayals of Muslims. People DO call Black Americans criminals based, in part, on disproportionate representation of Black people as criminals in news coverage."
Ah, you understand my point, but apparently not the fact that the Reuters photo fuels the same distortion.
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Stephanie Keith is a very talented, award-winning photojournalist. here are her photos of people practicing voudou in Brooklyn.
She photographs the unexpected, and that's what makes the pictures compelling. She got it wrong with "bonfires" but I think the photos themselves tell worthy stories. I'm glad to have seen them.
http://www.stephaniekeith.com/3980674-vodou-brooklyn#1
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Here, I think most observant families give their bread to the
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$tevie wrote:
The No Parking Monday sign is a nifty detail. Nice shot.
Yeah, I liked that detail which indicated that it was planned. I'm a fan of controlled fire in general.
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If someone wants to research whether the people in that photograph had a NYC fire permit and were in compliance with safety laws, that might illuminate the discussion.
If they don't and they're not, then the photo is telling yet another story. If there's tension between community safety and the right to carry out religious ritual, that's an interesting conversation worth a photograph.
Fire safety around Sabbath observances has been in the news before, no doubt about that.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/23...25532.html
Is that what this is about? because honestly if you look at fires caused by Christmas celebrations (trees, candles, lights, drunk careless people etc ) you'll find similar stuff going on
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