Bill Cosby found guilty

[bfd]

[Blankity Blank]

Racer X wrote:
Cosby shouted out to the prosecutor after he was found guilty "You AXXhole!" class act.

“After the verdict, Steele had immediately argued that Cosby’s bail should be revoked and he be jailed. He argued that the entertainer has a plane and could flee.

“This is somebody who has unlimited wealth,” the prosecutor contended. “I don’t think any amount of bail can assure his presence under these circumstance.”

Cosby spit back, yelling: “He doesn’t have a plane, you asshole.””

Because the guy who thought Cosby has a private plane is the aywhole in the courtroom. Uh huh.

[Kraniac]

bfd wrote:

What an a-hole

lock him up

[RAMd®d]

Please don't victim shame.


Please don't mischaracterize the truth my statement as shaming. It's stupid of you to do so.

The fact is if one doesn't say something, nothing gets done. And yes, sometimes even when someone says something, nothing gets done.

It's an imperfect world.

[JoeH]

Blankity Blank wrote:
[quote=Racer X]
Cosby shouted out to the prosecutor after he was found guilty "You AXXhole!" class act.

“After the verdict, Steele had immediately argued that Cosby’s bail should be revoked and he be jailed. He argued that the entertainer has a plane and could flee.

“This is somebody who has unlimited wealth,” the prosecutor contended. “I don’t think any amount of bail can assure his presence under these circumstance.”

Cosby spit back, yelling: “He doesn’t have a plane, you asshole.””

Because the guy who thought Cosby has a private plane is the aywhole in the courtroom. Uh huh.
As of 2012 Cosby owned a Gulfstream, named it Camille after his wife. Not confirmed that he still owns it, or a different one, but almost all his travel including recently is by private plane. Makes his outburst a little suspicious.

[JoeH]

DinerDave wrote:
Used to have a lot of respect for him. Key words are the first two. (Used to)

He owns property and spent a lot of time at his house about 10 miles from me.Boy, back when times were better for him, he had one heck of a Christmas light display all over his house, barn, and yard.
Now he blends in, if he comes to the property at all.

Dave

Years back through a friend I knew a couple who worked for the Cosby's at that home here in W. MA. Very tight-lipped about it because of the NDA's they were under. A number of other locals have worked for them, rumors have drifted out over the years that the private man was not the same as the public persona.

Most of the business dealings in this area were done by Camille, not everyone who had dealings with her had good words to say about it.

[Janit]

RAMd®d wrote:
Please don't victim shame.


Please don't mischaracterize the truth my statement as shaming. It's stupid of you to do so.

The fact is if one doesn't say something, nothing gets done. And yes, sometimes even when someone says something, nothing gets done.

It's an imperfect world.

Perhaps, but which target were you aiming at? Were you pointing at the victims and criticizing them for not coming forward? Or were you pointing at all of us for tolerating a social context in which coming forward is unsafe for victims?

This distinction is important. If you don't make this distinction, then you can end up simply contributing to the problem, regardless of your intentions.

We all have notions about how other people ought to behave, based on our own experience. Unfortunately, or fortunately, as the case may be, we don't have familiarity with the nature of things we haven't experienced for ourselves. It is important to be open to the possibility that there are things that we don't personally understand.

[rjmacs]

RAMd®d wrote:
Please don't victim shame.

Please don't mischaracterize the truth my statement as shaming. It's stupid of you to do so.

The fact is if one doesn't say something, nothing gets done. And yes, sometimes even when someone says something, nothing gets done.

It's an imperfect world.

Yes, and I recognize that I play a part in that imperfection. There have been times in my life I have questioned or dismissed accusations of sexual misconduct brought against powerful men by women as being likely motivated by financial gain, or as compromised by the 'questionable character' of the accuser. I was acculturated to be skeptical of such claims, despite also having been raised to respect women and condemn sexual assault. I never questioned whether NDAs might be used by powerful predators to silence dozens upon dozens of victims through intimidation and payouts. I didn't really listen to victims so I could understand better how paralyzing and terrifying speaking about trauma and abuse is, and what kind of support is needed to enable victims to come forward.

I'm grateful for #metoo because it has taught me how to be a better man, a better friend and colleague, and how to play an active part in contesting abuse, from stupid sexist comments all the way to violent assault. I'm done with criticizing victims about when and how they come forward to speak, I'm finished interrogating the character and morals of people who have experienced trauma, and I've changed the balance on what I find credible/likely on first hearing.

I invite you, and everyone here, to join me.

[NewtonMP2100]

.....yet Weinstein, the monster, has yet to answer for his years and years and horrors.......waiting for his comeuppance........

[Bill in NC]

So he's out on bail indefinitely until the appeals are exhausted?

if so, then considering we're talking about a 80 year old, black, male...odds are he'll just end up dying at home.