Do we need a big inauguration?

[vision63]

p8712 wrote:
[quote=rgG]
What type of a message does it send to everyone around the world if the new President of the US cowers in an underground bunker for his inauguration?
You have to stand up to these bullies. This is why we are where we are right now, no one stood up to them.
If the US military and SS can't protect the Inauguration, then we are in deep **** and need to resign from any positions of authority.
True Americans don't let their freedom of assembly be taken away by thugs and insurrectionists. We elected Biden, he should and will have his public inauguration.
Don't cower before a bully.

As someone who was relentlessly bullied in childhood, engaging never works. You either avoid, or perhaps give an overwhelming blow. Unless Biden is planning on nuking Washington DC I don’t think I show of strength is particularly viable.

I looked up one of my childhood bullies on the Internet. I found he had a crappy life, many arrests and drug issues, and was arrested for pushing an 85-year-old man out of a wheelchair so he could rob him. Life took care of him when I could not. Life, the judicial system, implementation of helpful liberal policies, and a return of sanity might help take care of some of this.

Lincoln didn’t exactly invite members of the confederacy to his speeches. There was still plenty of strength.
I wish I was there to help you with those bullies.

[p8712]

vision63 wrote:
[quote=p8712]
[quote=rgG]
What type of a message does it send to everyone around the world if the new President of the US cowers in an underground bunker for his inauguration?
You have to stand up to these bullies. This is why we are where we are right now, no one stood up to them.
If the US military and SS can't protect the Inauguration, then we are in deep **** and need to resign from any positions of authority.
True Americans don't let their freedom of assembly be taken away by thugs and insurrectionists. We elected Biden, he should and will have his public inauguration.
Don't cower before a bully.

As someone who was relentlessly bullied in childhood, engaging never works. You either avoid, or perhaps give an overwhelming blow. Unless Biden is planning on nuking Washington DC I don’t think I show of strength is particularly viable.

I looked up one of my childhood bullies on the Internet. I found he had a crappy life, many arrests and drug issues, and was arrested for pushing an 85-year-old man out of a wheelchair so he could rob him. Life took care of him when I could not. Life, the judicial system, implementation of helpful liberal policies, and a return of sanity might help take care of some of this.

Lincoln didn’t exactly invite members of the confederacy to his speeches. There was still plenty of strength.
I wish I was there to help you with those bullies.
You are a kind person. Bullying is just part of life, and was handled differently back when I was a child (80’s). If anything it gives me more insight, and shows me which adults to avoid. Adults bully all the time, if anything I stand up for myself more or run away faster from bad situations.

[numbered]

Bullying is just part of life

I understand the bullying point, but can I suggest that it might be closer to spousal abuse? I think the abuser pattern (beat, claim got carried away, unity/get back together, beat...) is closer to the mark. The victim is desperate for unity. Us.

The day of the insurrection, the GOPers were using Biden's words of unity against him. "Impeachment is divisive". Like 74 million complaining that 81 million should not win is not divisive.

I really think forgiveness without accountability is problematic.

[rgG]

I didn't say engage. I said, don't alter your plans and give in, that's all. I think we should all know that appeasement doesn't work with these types of people.
I will support whatever Biden/Harris decide to do, but I will be shocked if they change the venue.

I remember in 8th grade there was a girl who wanted to beat me up in gym class, because I was new in school and she didn't like the way I looked. I told her she could hit me, but I would not fight her back. I knew my mom would kill me if I got into a fight at school. I just stood there waiting to see what she would do. She blustered a bit and then decided that I guess I wasn't worth getting suspended over. I was scared to death, but there was literally no where to run.

[p8712]

I really think forgiveness without accountability is problematic.

If my words seem to imply that please no I do not believe that. I’m only talking about the transfer of power. Once that is accomplished I don’t think we should be showing mercy, at all. Give these people for 10 years in prison that the new law afford them all stand trial. Harsher sentences for the ones that have committed the more egregious crimes. There is a reason why treason carries the death penalty. Massive investigations of all of trumps misdeeds. Fix everything that could be fixed.

And yes, $2000 checks every month for a while even to mouth breather country, and free junior college for them to. Maybe try to fix the problem that way as well. A sliver of hope the angry people that are out of other options.

[p8712]

rgG wrote:
I didn't say engage. I said, don't alter your plans and give in, that's all. I think we should all know that appeasement doesn't work with these types of people.
I will support whatever Biden/Harris decide to do, but I will be shocked if they change the venue.

I remember in 8th grade there was a girl who wanted to beat me up in gym class, because I was new in school and she didn't like the way I looked. I told her she could hit me, but I would not fight her back. I knew my mom would kill me if I got into a fight at school. I just stood there waiting to see what she would do. She blustered a bit and then decided that I guess I wasn't worth getting suspended over. I was scared to death, but there was literally no where to run.

Let’s eat

[Dennis S]

Pence will be there, so there will be crazies after him.

[rgG]

I was wondering earlier this week if Congress could just change the date for the inauguration and swear Biden/Harris in now, but since the senate left, I guess that can’t happen.
Jan 20th hasn’t always been the date.

[p8712]

rgG wrote:
I was wondering earlier this week if Congress could just change the date for the inauguration and swear Biden/Harris in now, but since the senate left, I guess that can’t happen.
Jan 20th hasn’t always been the date.

Maybe inauguration at a Trump property.

And then not pay the bill.

[numbered]

rgG wrote:
I was wondering earlier this week if Congress could just change the date for the inauguration and swear Biden/Harris in now, but since the senate left, I guess that can’t happen. Jan 20th hasn’t always been the date.

You are right about the date. It was changed during FDR's term from March to January. I am pretty sure that this needs a constitutional amendment.