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[quote mattkime]what if it had been a young man that shot the tires out? then would it have been a wise act? or can old women be more trigger happy?
It's really hard to say without knowing more of the specifics of what happened.
If there was a genuine reason to believe that the trespasser's intent was theft, I can understand wanting to detain that person until the cops arrived. I'm not saying it was the brightest choice, but it is understandable.
On the other hand, if she was just shooting out the tires because she was p!ssed off... that's another story.
But as told, I didn't see this as malicious use of a handgun... which is not always the case.
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That reminds me..
I always remember something I read about a knife. The first time an attacker should know you have a knife is when they feel it in them.
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Cars and guns are both things that can kill people by accident any time they are used. I think that outcome is more likely with a gun than with a car. Does anyone disagree? So people who oughtn't be driving because of age and infirmity, shouldn't be firing guns.
I'd say there's a good chance she hit the tires by accident--Id like to know how many shots were fired, and what else was hit.
EDIT: BillB: thanks for refraining from using your favorite symbol when you come to grafiti my living room. Ignoramus.
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[quote wave rider]Seems that if she could see well enough to shoot out the tires that she could have gotten the lisence plate numbers quite easily...
Nah. The plate was essentially unreadable as it was riddled with bullet holes.
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I sincerely wonder how these guys would feel about it.
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed and that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press."
-Thomas Jefferson
"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all the world would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside...Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived the use of them..."
-Thomas Paine
"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature." -Samuel Adams
"The true foundation of republican government is the equal right of every citizen, in his person and property, and in their management. Try by this, as a tally, every provision of our constitution, and see if it hangs directly on the will of the people."
-Thomas Jefferson
"More than a generation will be requisite, under the administration of reasonable laws favoring the progress of knowledge in the general mass of the people, and their habituation to an independent security of person and property, before they will be capable of estimating the value of freedom, and the necessity of a sacred adherence to the principles on which it rests for preservation."
-Thomas Jefferson
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It's interesting to me how many people simply cede their responsibility for the safety and integrity of their own property to "someone else"...
I would have disabled their vehicle too.. Probably with an axe I keep outside the back door... But if I were an old lady, I'd probably have made the same choice (providing that I had a safe backstop, that is).
The thieves would leave my property in handcuffs or in a box.
The police do NOT have a responsibility to PREVENT crime, only to investigate AFTER a crime. If I catch them in the act, they're going to stop. Period.
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Relax Tats, nobody is going to take yer guns.
>>It's interesting to me how many people simply cede their responsibility for the safety and integrity of their own property to "someone else"...
Its not about ceding responsibility. Its about deescalating a situation.
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[quote mattkime]Relax Tats, nobody is going to take yer guns.
I don't own "guns".
And the quotes above from our founding fathers were chosen based on the insight they give on the concept of what "property rights" meant to them and the lengths to which they believed citizens should go to protect those rights. The fact that arms are mentioned is coincidental since the quotes were found using "property" as a key word.
And my question was sincere. I wonder to what degree they would think people should go to protect their property. I think she was stupid as I outlined above, but I do think that the possession of personal property is a fundamental human right. Is disabling a vehicle with a handgun a reasonable action to take in order to feel secure in your property? in your life? I better stop now as I am treading in territory that will move this thread to the other side.
