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I already gave it. It shouldn't have been hard to see since the byline of the article I linked to states, "Exclusive: Inside Account of U.S. Eavesdropping on Americans U.S. Officers' "Phone Sex" Intercepted; Senate Demanding Answers"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5987804&page=2
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Faulk says he and others in his section of the NSA facility at Fort Gordon routinely shared salacious or tantalizing phone calls that had been intercepted, alerting office mates to certain time codes of "cuts" that were available on each operator's computer.
"Hey, check this out," Faulk says he would be told, "there's good phone sex or there's some pillow talk, pull up this call, it's really funny, go check it out. It would be some colonel making pillow talk and we would say, 'Wow, this was crazy'," Faulk told ABC News.
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Maybe you never heard of this because the conservative talk shows you listen to and blogs you read didn't report it because it didn't fit their world view. I just happened to find this on ABC's site first, but the information about this was hardly confined to just ABC.
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Swampy, I don't doubt that you do care about all government abuse - in the abstract. But I've presented you with two instances where there has probably been pretty significant government abuse of power in the Bush administration (I could actually cite many more) and evidently in neither case have you cared enough to follow up adequately (obviously you didn't even click through enough on the link I provided to read the byline of the article) to verify that what I said was so. But you cared enough about a relatively minor case of government abuse to post about it twice. That discrepancy in concern is the core of my problem with what you are saying with respect to this issue of the abuse of government power with respect to JTP.
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Ted, the report of the Ft. Gorden intercepts doesn't surprise me, but as in the JTP case, it's a matter of individuals using their power or authority to snoop or pass it around. It's not the Patriot Act that is bad as much as it is the lack of morals or judgment on the part of those who enforce the laws. Those guys should be disciplined every bit as much as Helen Jones-Kelley.
I guess because I grew up in a world where people were honest and respected the law I feel more outraged than some in this day and age. Now we have a generation that feel no moral compunction about doing stuff like that. In fact some may feel obliged in some way (I guess HJK thought she would be doing her democratic allies a favor by snooping on JPT) or they think it is funny... as in the case of the Ft. Gordon soldiers.. "haha come listen".
I find this true not just in the realm of the government, but in the private sector or the work sector as well. If that's caring about government abuse in the abstract, then I'm guilty. Abuse of power is abuse of power. All the way up to the POTUS.
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Four more Ohio employees punished for their role in JTP privacy invasion. Two fired, two others facing disciplinary action.
http://townhall.com/news/politics-electi...r_searches
I guess the partisans thought it was a good idea at the time. I wonder if they it was worth it now?
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swampy wrote:
Four more Ohio employees punished for their role in JTP privacy invasion. Two fired, two others facing disciplinary action.
http://townhall.com/news/politics-electi...r_searches
I guess the partisans thought it was a good idea at the time. I wonder if they it was worth it now?
Your lack of reading comprehension is showing swampy. Nowhere in that story does it state that two were fired. Just that two more were given 4 weeks suspension without pay. The other two cases are still pending, with disciplinary action not yet determined.
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I just thought suspended without pay was a euphemism for fire... Apologies..
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I hope you were not really a teacher, if that is as good as you can do, you were not doing your students any good. As for it being an euphemism, it is a very simple, concise statement of a type of disciplinary option used in all areas of employment, especially government and school employment.
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What. Apologies not accepted? Wow. This is a tough room.
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Oh, the politics of FEAR are just so 2006! Welcome to the new Obama age. You've got nothing to fear. Step out of that Bush funk- Obama is going to pay your mortgage!
