What Musks nutso shenanigans are costing Tesla owners in one graph:

[Carnos Jax]

ztirffritz wrote:
He's not a MAGA idiot. I don't think he even likes Trump.

Agreed.

ztirffritz wrote:
He just doesn't want someone else to prevent him from hearing what Trump has to say, not that he has anything to say worth hearing. It's the principle of it.

How do you explain this (does it change your opinion?):

Twitter has begun suspending journalists that have been critical of Elon Musk...among them are:

- Ryan Mac NYT
- Donnie O'Sullivan CNN
- Drew Harwell Wash Post
- Matt Binder Mashable
- Micah Lee The Intercept
- Aaron Rupar
- Tony Webster
- Keith Olbermann

[RAMd®d]

My reaction to the initial post - I feel bad for anyone who treats their car like a financial asset instead of a consumable.


I've always seen my cars as consumables.

They are maintained as long as possible, short of archival restoration, then they're replaced and towed off.



I don't think he even likes Trump. He just doesn't want someone else to prevent him from hearing what Trump has to say, not that he has anything to say worth hearing. It's the principle of it.


I'm sure he has principles that he adheres to, but I do not see him as 'a man of principle' whatsoever.

Maybe he's not a fan, but I think it is.

But that he thinks BSC 45* deserves be heard on a private forum, however exposed to the public, that doesn't want him is BSC in and of itself.

Promoting that as some sort of entitled 'free speech' and then talking out of both sides of his mouth while shutting down accounts of everyone critical of him doesn't feel like he's a free speech kind of guy.

He's not a 'man of principle'.

Not by a long shot.

Some other game is afoot.

[NewtonMP2100]

.....he's a roasted.....nut......!!!

[sekker]

Carnos Jax wrote:
[quote=ztirffritz]
He's not a MAGA idiot. I don't think he even likes Trump.

Agreed.

ztirffritz wrote:
He just doesn't want someone else to prevent him from hearing what Trump has to say, not that he has anything to say worth hearing. It's the principle of it.

How do you explain this (does it change your opinion?):

Twitter has begun suspending journalists that have been critical of Elon Musk...among them are:

- Ryan Mac NYT
- Donnie O'Sullivan CNN
- Drew Harwell Wash Post
- Matt Binder Mashable
- Micah Lee The Intercept
- Aaron Rupar
- Tony Webster
- Keith Olbermann
Those journalists were sharing his personal real-time location data, and he and his family were at peril.

Not defending any aspect of what he did, just providing more context.

My understanding is he is getting ready to re-activate those accounts so long as they do not start re-sharing his real-time location data.

[sekker]

kj wrote:
I think it's due to many things such as strong competition, lack of real updates (but news of an update to the 3 probably contributes), relentless attention to every perceived flaw, and probably his odd political behavior.
There are still good reasons to buy a Tesla, and since I want a car that does the job I'd still consider one. I'm worn out trying to find out whether I like the makers of everything I buy.

The stock was always ahead of its valuation. The macroeconomic headwinds took 1/3 of the share value down.

But there's no question that if he had not had to sell a large batch of twitter shares to buy a vanity project, he (and Tesla) would be worth far more than it currently is.

And he would not be getting boo-ed when going to a show in SF.

[sekker]

hal wrote:
I think Musk took a very simpleton view of twitter. He figured that stock prices keep going up, he could just make an offer above market high enough that it couldn't be refused, but not so high that stock trends would make up the difference in a few months. THEN HE WOULD OWN TWITTER!!!!! And that's as far as he thought about it.

Some think he's playing 4D chess - I think he's being stupid. Time will tell. If he turns twitter around and sells it for a profit in a few years, I'll tip my hat to the asshole.

This, 100%.

[mrbigstuff]

If a stock (really, we're talking about a company, not a stock) takes a huge hit simply because of a few nutso statements from its CEO, the intrinsic value of the stock isn't there. It can't be.

[jonny]

ztirffritz wrote:
He's not a MAGA idiot. I don't think he even likes Trump.

He may not publicly, but he's doing everything in his power to turn Twitter into Gab 2.0 and place himself at the helm of that endeavor. What's worse?

sekker wrote:
Those journalists were sharing his personal real-time location data, and he and his family were at peril.

Show me.

[TheTominator]

gadje wrote:
He's smarter than you or me.

how do you know that?

OMG, he is the most smartest person ever!

Years ago he was criticized for using his child's name as his password.
So he figured out how to make his new password secure.

[Carnos Jax]

Musk is trying to spin blame for the current Tesla price drop on anything but himself. $100 of the current drop is due to the Twitter overhang (the fact that he bought it which worries investors that he won’t spend enough time on critical projects at Tesla, him selling Tesla shares to fund Twitter, and the incendiary Tweets he’s been making which make investors question his mental health). Lots of interesting posts in this thread:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603...07648?s=10&t=K2wKBBZotqata2yi5LmWEQ

Elon Musk wrote: @GerberKawasaki
Tesla is executing better than ever! We don't control the Federal Reserve. That is the real problem.

Gary Black wrote: @WholeMarsBlog
You're losing it my friend. Nearly all of the companies you mention have terrible fundamentals. $TSLA has excellent fundamentals with rising ests. You're comparing basket cases to a rock star.

The rest of the market is suffering from the same ‘federal reserve’. Yet why is the rest of the market only down 20% but Tesla 60%, especially when Tesla is significantly outperforming the rest of the market????