Majority of doctors support public option

[mattkime]

swampy and dakota - you can fight over who is the big table and who is the little table -

[Mac1337]

kanesa wrote:
Illegal aliens already get health care through their employers just like everyone else or they buy private insurance.

Great. So they are covered already. What is the fuss then?

[Mac1337]

I forgot. Al this talk about not covering illegals and money not going for abortion? They are all lies. Have you heard a peep from Planned Parenthood or LaRaza? They know when the dust settles and nobody is looking they will get theirs. The people who say illegals are excluded are the same ones who fought California's plan to exclude them from free health care. Besides, how do you know who is legal and who is not? National ID card? Love this slippery slope you guys are on. Keep going.

[mattkime]

[Dennis S]

"National ID card? Love this slippery slope you guys are on. Keep going." - Dakota

swampy loves the National ID card.

[Mac1337]

Until LaRaza starts campaigning against Democrats I assume it is all PR.

[Mike Sellers]

swampy wrote: 1) Started by the government. - That's a good thing?

I think our military is a good thing. You don't?

swampy wrote: 2) Run without profit incentive. - Like the Post Office, AmTrak etc.?

Like our military, which is a good thing.

[Mac1337]

Last I heard there were more private contractors in Afghanistan than US troops.

[swampy]

Contrary to Kanesa's HuffPo opinion piece, Investor's Daily says that 65% of doctors oppose the health plan(s)

Doctor opposition to health care overhaul proposals is broad and deep, revealing concerns not just about soaring costs, declining care, possible rationing and a lack of limits on malpractice suits, but also about government competence and motives, detailed responses to a new IBD/TIPP Poll show.

As reported Wednesday, 65% of the 1,376 practicing physicians who responded to a mailed questionnaire over the last two weeks said they opposed health care plans that have emerged from the administration and Congress. Just 33% supported them.

Perhaps the most shocking result: 45% of these professionals said they would consider closing their practices or retiring early if the reforms now under consideration were enacted.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis...?id=506309

[Ted King]

swampy wrote:
Contrary to Kanesa's HuffPo opinion piece, Investor's Daily says that 65% of doctors oppose the health plan(s)

Doctor opposition to health care overhaul proposals is broad and deep, revealing concerns not just about soaring costs, declining care, possible rationing and a lack of limits on malpractice suits, but also about government competence and motives, detailed responses to a new IBD/TIPP Poll show.

As reported Wednesday, 65% of the 1,376 practicing physicians who responded to a mailed questionnaire over the last two weeks said they opposed health care plans that have emerged from the administration and Congress. Just 33% supported them.

Perhaps the most shocking result: 45% of these professionals said they would consider closing their practices or retiring early if the reforms now under consideration were enacted.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis...?id=506309

Hmmm. Which study is more credible:

The one reported on in the link to the Huffington Post:

Surveying a nationally representative sample of 2,130 physicians across America, researchers Salomeh Keyhani, M.D., M.P.H., and Alex Federman, M.D., M.P.H., from Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City queried physicians about a range of options for expanding health insurance coverage.

And this was published in the New England Journal of Medicine which peer reviews articles.


The one you quote:

The questionnaires were sent out Aug. 28 to 25,600 doctors nationwide. The sample was purchased from a list broker, Lake Group Media of Rye, N.Y. One hundred of those responding were retired, and their answers were not included in the final results.

So, one comes from two researches published in a peer review journal, the other we don't know who published originally or how the "list broker" came up with the list.

And then there is this:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/...2381.story

The American Medical Assn., after 60 years of opposing any government overhaul of healthcare, is now lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan -- a proposal that promises hundreds of billions of dollars for America's doctors.

Of all the interest groups that have won favorable terms in closed-door negotiations this year, the association representing the nation's physicians may have taken home the biggest prizes, including an agreement to stop planned cuts in Medicare payments that are worth $228 billion to doctors over 10 years.

In addition, the proposal that would require all individuals to obtain medical insurance includes premium subsidies to ensure that their doctor bills would be paid.

The AMA, which many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force, is providing money and grass-roots backing for these and other reforms.

Do you really think the AMA is pushing for these reforms in spite of the fact that supposedly nearly 2/3's of the doctors oppose the reform (as reported in the "study" you quoted) and that supposedly 45% of them would consider closing their practices?