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Grace62 wrote:
Isn't the reason a number of Democrats wouldn't support a Mormon President the fact that the larger organization espouses socially conservative positions? I'm surprised that number is not a lot higher.
As it turns out there are of course Mormons who are NOT socially conservative. You really have to ask each individual.
If Romney only has 18% of Republicans not liking Mormons, he's in great shape.
That's not what the question asked, Grace62. The question was: "If your party nominated a generally well-qualified person for president who happened to be Mormon, would you vote for that person?" It wasn't about socially conservative positions, or liking/disliking Mormons. It was about willingness to vote for an otherwise well-qualified candidate nominated by your own party.
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I don't understand your comment rj.
What I'm addressing is WHY someone would say they would reject a candidate just because they are Mormon.
I know what the survey is asking.
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Grace62 wrote:
Growing up in the south in the 60's and 70's, it was commonplace to hear Protestants say "Catholics aren't Christians."
yes, i've heard that a lot since i moved to Georgia 17 years ago.
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Mormons’ image campaign
Lisa Wangsness, Globe Staff / Jun 20, 2011
SALT LAKE CITY — In the fall of 2008, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints convened focus groups across the country as part of a major market-research study to learn more about anti-Mormon sentiment in America.
The researchers found that the most common negative associations with Mormonism included being “pushy,’’ “cultish,’’ “secretive,’’ “controlling,’’ “sexist,’’ “antigay,’’ and “polygamist.’’ There was scant interest among those surveyed in learning more about Mormon doctrine, but they did display curiosity about Mormons as people.
“I’ll never forget this one woman,’’ said Stephen B. Allen, managing director of the church’s missionary program. When participants were asked how they would feel about doing community service with Mormons, “She said’’ — Allen adopted a stage whisper — “if you are serving alongside them, you can ask them the questions you always wanted to ask.’’
The result of the research was the “I’m a Mormon’’ ad campaign, a major rebranding effort.
The effort overlaps with a political campaign that, for the first time, includes two Mormons who are presidential contenders — former governors Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, who is in the race, and Jon Huntsman of Utah, who plans to announce his candidacy tomorrow.
Both men will have to over come the same unease about Mormons the ads seek to diminish. At the same time, pop-culture forces like “The Book of Mormon,’’ an irreverent Broadway musical hit about of two naive Mormon missionaries who are sent from Utah to Uganda to proselytize, have driven public interest in Mormonism to new heights.
The ad campaign features self-narrated video portraits of young, energetic Mormons with diverse backgrounds and eye-catching interests like surfing and violin-making. Tested in nine markets last summer[2010], the campaign popped up on an electronic billboard in Times Square last week, days after “The Book of Mormon’’ cleaned up at the Tony Awards. The ad campaign is scheduled to run in 24 to 29 markets nationwide this fall.
http://mobile.boston.com/art/25/news/nat...s?single=1&p=5
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“pushy,’’ “cultish,’’ “secretive,’’ “controlling,’’ “sexist,’’ “antigay,’’ and “polygamist.’’
"...by their fruits ye shall know them."
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lafinfil wrote:
No commercials around here, but I saw this guy at a local candidates event.
From his sign I'm not sure if he is actually pro or anti Morman Mormon

(sorry - I had Photoshop open and couldn't resist)
LOLx3!
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Grace62 wrote:
[quote=Black]
Interesting. The Mormon missionaries I've experienced are stationed in a working class, gang-dominated neighborhood that most forum members wouldn't be caught dead in. They speak only Spanish with each-other . . . live in not-so-great accommodations within the community, and have a very meager budget from which they're expected to take care of all of their material needs (that's part of the experience.)
I'm all for community service, but it should be inspired, not required. Not a big fan of proselytizing, regardless of the neighborhood.
How do you know what neighborhoods people would be "caught dead in?"
Black wrote:
Last I checked, Apple didn't put store managers in charge of building design ;-)
What does Apple have to do with this?
My understanding is that community service is required-- there are other options for your "service year" than missionary work, and to take that path is a choice.
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Black wrote:
My understanding is that community service is required-- there are other options for your "service year" than missionary work, and to take that path is a choice.
Only qualified young men go on missions (most 19-20 year olds from active LDS families go on them) , and the type of mission is assigned by the President of the Church. They have to take whatever they are assigned, and leaving early brings shame on the family, so they tend to stick it out no matter how much they dislike it (and I have heard major stories of disliked missions) Most missions are about proselytizing. Community service is really incidental to that. They also can't come home if a close family member dies or is ill. It's a major rite of passage for a Mormon man, an initiation into manhood if you will.
Young women and elderly couples can do missions with permission, but they rarely do them.
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This discussion strikes at the heart of innate prejudice, the ideas we were brought up with. Truth is if Democrats were to nominate an avowed lesbian for office, black voters would then sit on their hands.
Party nominees do not fly in the face of their core constituencies, they pander to them and then pull away to romance middle level voters during the real for shit election, which party nominations are most assuredly not.
That's what makes a chameleon like Romney a chameleon like Romney.
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Doesn't matter.
Independents determine Presidencies.
Reagan proved this when he postulated "are you better off now than you were 4 years ago " to them.
That'll be the bottom line again.
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