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Thanks Reuters!
#41
JPK wrote:
Reuters' journalists don't capture the news they stage it. This is clearly a staged photo where the subject was instructed and directed.

I have seen many examples where, especially Reuters does this.

Your job is to capture the news not stage it for impressionistic effect. If you want to be artistic and set the stage thats fun - but it is no longer photo journalism and should be in national geographic not reuters.

JPK

I truly hope you are being sarcastic.

If not, they know the facts before spouting off what you don't know.
1st - I know and have worked with numerous Reuter's staffers, they are professionals by and large (of course there may be unethical ones, but they are exception). Many risk their lives to bring you images from around the world. Do not diminish what they do.

2nd - Most images you see come over the newswire are not produced by Reuter staffers or employees (same for AFP and AP). They are sent out by corporate PR firms and are supposed to be marked as such. Others are done by freelancers, who sell the image to the news agency. You have to trust the professionalism of those individuals (and those found cheating are dropped)

3rd - The image in question was hardly staged, if it was it would have been done much better. Honestly, it is a poor image in a multitude of ways that I won't bother going into.

4th - images found to be falsified are generally given a mandatory kill. Subscribing media groups are not suppose to use it for any purpose.
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#42
bfd wrote:
If anything, Peasch is a holiday about children - why not show a family celebrating at seder? Why not show children asking questions of their elders? These things are at the center of Passover.

So one must ask, why show a bonfire, some funny looking Jews, and have that picture represent "a holy day"?

That would make a lovely photo gallery, but it wouldn't work under the heading "PREPARING for Passover" which is the title of the slide show.
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#43
Clearly staged.

Not that the photographer set the fire, placed the barricades around it and cast some jews to be in a photo, but obviously the situation was influenced to "get the shot".

Since you are "the expert" and say that photographers who cheat get dropped, I would expect to see the one who took this photo will get appropriately called out.

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I wish I would have book marked the video, but I saw a great video in NYC on inauguration day where there were hooligans rioting and throwing rocks the windows of GAP and starbucks. The video showed a photojournalist who was trying to capture the image of one of these protestors, but his timing was off and his angle wasn't right. It showed him going up to the bandana wearing protestor, then the photographer got in position and the protestor grabbed another rock and hurled it at another window. This time he "got the shot". I guess that wasn't staged either?

Obviously you know ALL the facts.

JPK
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#44
JPK, you need to explain how you define "staged". You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.
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#45
$tevie,
I thought my statement below was pretty clear, but I will try to clarify further.

I DON"T think the photographer was the one who lit the fire or brought these jewish looking actors together just so he could take a photo of it. But I do think he probably directed the scene and asked the guy in the photo to walk by, while reading his book to make the shot more enhanced. To may that isn't recording the news - it is creating the news. I would even go so far as classifying it as "Fake News".

I journalist or photojournalist's job isn't to manufacture or influence the news they are trying to record.

If the you think staging isn't the right word, how about direct, manage, influence or conduct?

I hope those words better reflect what I think they mean.

JPK

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Not that the photographer set the fire, placed the barricades around it and cast some jews to be in a photo, but obviously the situation was influenced to "get the shot".
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#46
I thought this was interesting. It kind of sums up the hypocrisy I see in photojournalism.

https://www.david-campbell.org/2011/10/0...ournalism/

Maybe staging isn't the right word, but that photo appear to be inconsistent with documentary style photography? Just like news, in general, it is all spun based on the perspective of the person trying to get the story across. It is no longer about documenting news.

JPK
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#47
I see nothing about that image that looks staged - it is too poorly composed (the fire is dead center, the man in the background is obscured, the horizon is crooked..
I saw the foreground man as stationary, reading his prayer book, while others are feeding the fire. The photographer went close the foreground man to create a dominant element, with the fire adding a layer of interest. It was poorly executed, but not staged.
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