Campaign promise fulfilled: student loan forgiveness

[$tevie]

[mrbigstuff]

$tevie wrote:

C'mon. That really has nothing to do with what we are discussing, it's a meme that is used in various forms for continuing endless war combat. We all tend to conflate these issues that feel to be all the same, but no one is about to die because of student debt.

[Lemon Drop]

$tevie wrote:

That's a perfect response to some of the whining going on.

[Acer]

mrbigstuff wrote:
[quote=$tevie]

C'mon. That really has nothing to do with what we are discussing, it's a meme that is used in various forms for continuing endless war combat. We all tend to conflate these issues that feel to be all the same, but no one is about to die because of student debt.

How about a parable? This has wine instead of blood:

Matthew 20

8 “When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’

9 “The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12 ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’

13 “But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’

16 “So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”

[btfc]

But Sally’s cookie is bigger than my cookie! It’s not fair!

[RAMd®d]

Education and medical care for the rich!

Let those unworthy have Hooked On Phonics and eat Ivermectin.

[kj]

It's a political move (and a good one), nothing else. It isn't making the future better, because the system is still broken (schools are charging too much, period). It's a 400 billion incentive to be a progressive. We'll be right back where we started in a few years.

[C(-)ris]

kj wrote:
It's a political move (and a good one), nothing else. It isn't making the future better, because the system is still broken (schools are charging too much, period). It's a 400 billion incentive to be a progressive. We'll be right back where we started in a few years.

That remains to be seen. I think it has equal chances of delivering a democrat defeat as a win. From my seat, I’m seeing a lot more complaining about this from swing voters than I am people who are happy about it. But that is just my circle, so who knows.

[kj]

C(-)ris wrote:
[quote=kj]
It's a political move (and a good one), nothing else. It isn't making the future better, because the system is still broken (schools are charging too much, period). It's a 400 billion incentive to be a progressive. We'll be right back where we started in a few years.

That remains to be seen. I think it has equal chances of delivering a democrat defeat as a win. From my seat, I’m seeing a lot more complaining about this from swing voters than I am people who are happy about it. But that is just my circle, so who knows.
Seems like it helped his approval rating, but you could be right.

[Tiangou]

Shut up. It’s $10,000. You are a child throwing a tantrum because this one time you weren’t the recipient of something nice. So take your generational wealth or the 401K contribution you don’t pay taxes on or your f**king pride because you’re too good to take a discount on an overpriced education — that folks in many other countries barely have to pay for — and shove it up your ass. It’s a lousy $10,000, you selfish little baby.