The Starbucks "bootleg latte"--Starbucks' official response

[Seacrest]

I wouldn't be surprised if the cost of labor to make a "genuine" latte vs the cost of dairy makes the profit margin on a "ghetto" latte higher than the genuine.

At most I'm guessing it's a wash.

[elmo3]

[quote herbiesyufy]Milk is out there to be taken, ergo it must be taken, according to Elmo
Not must be taken; there's a difference between taking what's offered and feeling obligated to take something in its entirety.

If a jug of milk is offered, and I choose to enhance my Starbucks experience with some of it--as Starbucks intended--then I will. However, I will not feel OBLIGATED to take it just because it's there. It's not that I MUST take it.

You do have a way of trying to twist things around to mean what they don't actually say.

Let me say that again: I'm not talking about taking a half ounce...I'm talking about taking 19 ounces in a Venti cup.

And when Starbucks looks at the customer with a smile and says, "Please, whatever you'd like--we want you to be a happy customer," YOU decide to be the judge on what they ACTUALLY mean. Right?

What's the difference between taking 19 ounces of "free" milk and 19 ounces of "free" mints?

Both are stepping outside the bounds of reasonable use.

So now YOU are the one--the ONLY one--who has the "correct" definition of "reasonable"?

What about 18 ounces? 16 ounces? 14 ounces? Pray tell, what is it that YOU think is "reasonable"?

And why is it that YOUR judgment of "reasonable" is what everyone else "should" follow?

[elmo3]

[quote herbiesyufy]I have not seen any Starbucks statement saying they "approve" of such abuse
Well, Al Franken, by definition it's not "abuse" because they DO approve of it. And they have said so. Explicitly.

Obviously, you haven't bothered yourself to read the reports on this matter, where Starbucks make themselves and their position clearly known.

Of course, reading those reports would get in the way of your efforts to define yourself as the sole judge of what's "reasonable", so it's no wonder you have deliberately ignored said reports.

[elmo3]

[quote herbiesyufy][quote Baby Tats]Herbie goes to the all you can eat buffet, but only gets one plate- It's unethical.
Herbie goes to a fast food restaurant, but never refills his sodas- It's unethical.
Herbie goes to Starbucks, but never uses more than 0.5 oz milk- It's unethical.

Herbie goes to the public bathroom, but only uses one sheet to wipe- Which would account for the smell.


BT
Baby Tits,
Can you possibly respond to an argument you don't like WITHOUT personally attacking the messenger?

Frankly, I don't think so--because your method of arguing is not to argue a position, but rather to sling mud.

[elmo3]

[quote Lux Interior]It is balanced out by those of us who like our coffee the way it was meant to be drunk.



Black.
oh, man, the movie Airplane just POPPED to the front of my brain...

[elmo3]

[quote RAMd®d]A woman at a local Safeway took one of the 1qt. plastic salad containers, put it under her arm, and began shoveling in handfuls of cubed cheddar cheese samples. The toothpicks were inefficient for the task. Although Safeway didn't have a sign that said "SAMPLES- ONE/TWO TO A CUSTOMER", neither did they have one that said "ALL YOU CAN EAT/ALL YOU CAN TAKE".
But what about buying cubed cheddar cheese at the salad bar? The salad bar is $3.69/pound, but on the shelf cubed cheddar cheese is $5.00/pound. Buying it at the salad bar in bulk saves you money.

Apparently, herbiesyufy would have an anyeurism at that. God forbid you should buy the same product at a lower price from a different part of the store. Didn't you know the salad bar isn't intended to be where you buy your cheese!!!!! YOU'RE CHEATING!!!!!!!!!

[Baby Tats]

[quote herbiesyufy]Do you also dump the entire basket of "free" mints into your purse at restaurants? I mean, after all, they are FREE.

Might as well take 'em all.
Different. Now if you were talking about the salt and pepper on the table then you would have an apt comparison.

Leaving the store with pockets full of unused items is another issue. You can't draw an accurate comparison.


[quote herbiesyufy]
Baby Tits,

I never said any of that. However, it DOES show your complete lack of understanding of this discussion.
You herpy are the one that is showing a complete lack of understanding. I think the rest of us understand the situation just fine.


[quote herbiesyufy]
Baby Tits,

3) Of course it's okay to use more than .5 oz of milk. Are you an idiot? Who said anything about .5 oz? Can YOU not see the difference between .5 oz and 19 ounces? No? Well, I finally found out where our differences of opinion lie.
You still don't realize that you are picking a number between 0.5 and 19 and saying that only a sleazball would use more than that. You have decided to label other people based on some number that you think is right. Glad to know that we have an arbiter of all things sleazy. Your absolute "let me decide what is right and wrong for people" attitude, quite frankly, disgusts me. But hey, your entitled to it.


[quote herbiesyufy]4) You follow people into public toilets? And WATCH them? You sick fsck.
Unable to distinguish reality from a joke? The sad thing is that you must actually follow people to the condiment bar and watch them. Now really, who is sick? Have you stopped your meds? Maybe we could take up a collection for you.

So at what amount of milk do I become a sleazeball?
Would it bother you if people filled their cup with water instead of milk?


BT

[SeattlePhotog]

[quote elmo3][quote RAMd®d]A woman at a local Safeway took one of the 1qt. plastic salad containers, put it under her arm, and began shoveling in handfuls of cubed cheddar cheese samples. The toothpicks were inefficient for the task. Although Safeway didn't have a sign that said "SAMPLES- ONE/TWO TO A CUSTOMER", neither did they have one that said "ALL YOU CAN EAT/ALL YOU CAN TAKE".
But what about buying cubed cheddar cheese at the salad bar? The salad bar is $3.69/pound, but on the shelf cubed cheddar cheese is $5.00/pound. Buying it at the salad bar in bulk saves you money.

Apparently, herbiesyufy would have an anyeurism at that. God forbid you should buy the same product at a lower price from a different part of the store. Didn't you know the salad bar isn't intended to be where you buy your cheese!!!!! YOU'RE CHEATING!!!!!!!!!
Are you intentionally missing the point, dipstick, or are you just a dipstick?

The lady was TAKING the "free" samples, NOT Buying them. She took a plastic case and loaded up on "free" cheese. Didn't pay. Like when you dig your Mickey D's cup out of the trash and load up on warm soda, no ice, for free. Or dump the "free" dinner mints into your man-purse.

[SeattlePhotog]

[quote Baby Tats][quote herbiesyufy]Do you also dump the entire basket of "free" mints into your purse at restaurants? I mean, after all, they are FREE.

Might as well take 'em all.
Different. Now if you were talking about the salt and pepper on the table then you would have an apt comparison.

Leaving the store with pockets full of unused items is another issue. You can't draw an accurate comparison.


[quote herbiesyufy]
Baby Tits,

I never said any of that. However, it DOES show your complete lack of understanding of this discussion.
You herpy are the one that is showing a complete lack of understanding. I think the rest of us understand the situation just fine.


[quote herbiesyufy]
Baby Tits,

3) Of course it's okay to use more than .5 oz of milk. Are you an idiot? Who said anything about .5 oz? Can YOU not see the difference between .5 oz and 19 ounces? No? Well, I finally found out where our differences of opinion lie.
You still don't realize that you are picking a number between 0.5 and 19 and saying that only a sleazball would use more than that. You have decided to label other people based on some number that you think is right. Glad to know that we have an arbiter of all things sleazy. Your absolute "let me decide what is right and wrong for people" attitude, quite frankly, disgusts me. But hey, your entitled to it.


[quote herbiesyufy]4) You follow people into public toilets? And WATCH them? You sick fsck.
Unable to distinguish reality from a joke? The sad thing is that you must actually follow people to the condiment bar and watch them. Now really, who is sick? Have you stopped your meds? Maybe we could take up a collection for you.

So at what amount of milk do I become a sleazeball?
Would it bother you if people filled their cup with water instead of milk?


BT
You misunderstand me again, BT. I didn't say it was the milk-stealing that made you a sleazeball.

[elmo3]

[quote herbiesyufy][quote elmo3][quote RAMd®d]A woman at a local Safeway took one of the 1qt. plastic salad containers, put it under her arm, and began shoveling in handfuls of cubed cheddar cheese samples. The toothpicks were inefficient for the task. Although Safeway didn't have a sign that said "SAMPLES- ONE/TWO TO A CUSTOMER", neither did they have one that said "ALL YOU CAN EAT/ALL YOU CAN TAKE".
But what about buying cubed cheddar cheese at the salad bar? The salad bar is $3.69/pound, but on the shelf cubed cheddar cheese is $5.00/pound. Buying it at the salad bar in bulk saves you money.

Apparently, herbiesyufy would have an anyeurism at that. God forbid you should buy the same product at a lower price from a different part of the store. Didn't you know the salad bar isn't intended to be where you buy your cheese!!!!! YOU'RE CHEATING!!!!!!!!!
Are you intentionally missing the point, dipstick, or are you just a dipstick?
Do you go into every argument beginning with name-calling?

The lady was TAKING the "free" samples, NOT Buying them. She took a plastic case and loaded up on "free" cheese. Didn't pay. Like when you dig your Mickey D's cup out of the trash and load up on warm soda, no ice, for free. Or dump the "free" dinner mints into your man-purse.

I don't carry a purse, man- or otherwise. Not sure what you're getting at there. What are you getting at with the "man-purse" comment, anyway?

Anyway, so again you're saying that YOU are the judge of what's "sleazy" and what isn't.

Say, how'd that spanking go? Let me guess: you liked it SO much, you're acting this way intentionally to get another one.