Trump indicted again.

[SteveG]

In a voicemail left with an unidentified US Senator, Giuliani asked the senator to "object to every state and kind of spread this out a little bit like a filibuster,” according to a line from the voicemail quoted in the indictment.

[Black]

Steve G. wrote:
The identity of Co-Conspirator 6 is unclear. The indictment says they are “a political consultant who helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors to obstruct the certification proceeding.” The indictment also further ties this person to the fake elector slate in Pennsylvania.

[Lemon Drop]

I hope #6 is Ginni Thomas

[PeterB]

For a fairly amusing take on who the co-conspirators are (they refer to them as the "co-co's"), see here: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023...owell.html

[steve...]

Lemon Drop wrote:
I hope #6 is Ginni Thomas

(tu)

That would be soooo good.

[Ombligo]

steve... wrote:
[quote=S. Pupp]
Trump will get a fine. Others involved will get jail time, to be pardoned with the next Republican president.

I heard maybe not prison but home confinement with an ankle monitor plus fines. The reason was that prison would be too hard for the Secret Service to watch him.
Nothing says it has to be his home. How about a non-air-conditioned single-wide mobile home along the Texas border (there will soon be lots of razor wire available to surround it)

[gadje]

Speedy wrote:
I will postulate that in the end the SCOTUS, by a 6-3 ruling, will determine Trump’s actions, because he was a sitting president, were addressed in his House impeachment and Senate trial so therefore they do not belong in criminal court.

interesting... is this like Double Jeopardy? He was already tried once in Senate for this.

[mattkime]

Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=Ombligo]
As exciting as this is, the Georgia charges are more important as they can not receive a presidential pardon.

But the Governor can pardon.
Initially I thought "Well, I'm sure the governor be tripping over himself to make it happen" ....but a quick google search reveals that Trump was mad that the Georgia governor for not assisting his efforts and funded a challenger who failed.

What kind of lock does the current governor have on his seat?

[SteveG]

DeSantis slammed the outcome of the indictment in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, shortly after the news broke.

“While I’ve seen reports, I have not read the indictment,” DeSantis wrote. “I do, though, believe we need to enact reforms so that Americans have the right to remove cases from Washington, DC to their home districts.”

He added, “Washington, DC is a ‘swamp’ and it is unfair to have to stand trial before a jury that is reflective of the swamp mentality.”

[Speedy]

Steve G. wrote:
DeSantis slammed the outcome of the indictment in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, shortly after the news broke.

“While I’ve seen reports, I have not read the indictment,” DeSantis wrote. “I do, though, believe we need to enact reforms so that Americans have the right to remove cases from Washington, DC to their home districts.”

He added, “Washington, DC is a ‘swamp’ and it is unfair to have to stand trial before a jury that is reflective of the swamp mentality.”

I think juries follow the law and the rulings of the court. This isn’t mid-1950’s (and earlier) southern justice.