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McCain to suspend campaigning, wants to delay debate due to financial crisis
#71
rgG wrote:
This piece of legislation can't wait, the debate can.

Bullfeathers!

This "legislation" is a sham, a scam and a [I need another word that ends in am. Damn!]

The ONLY reason this bailout is being shoved down our throats is these bums want to skip town before their RECESS begins, and not miss a minute of gone fishin' time!

The U.S. economy ain't going nowhere.
And if it is destined to, then this bailout nonsense won't help matters anyway, just transfer the wealth to the wrong people FASTER.
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#72
> This "legislation" is a sham, a scam and a [I need another word that ends in am. Damn!]

It's a grand-slam sham, scam, flim-flam, wham-bamb-thank-you-maam, stick-it-up-your-clam, record-sized end-all pork-barrel special-interest early Christmas ham.

How do you get to the Met? Practice.

How do you get to Congress? Money!
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#73
You'll probably get your wish Seacrest. If history is any teacher, they won't be able to agree on anything or do anything, no matter how much time they are given. A lot of this is, as I think Bernanke said today, during the hearings, more of a psychological problem than a financial one. They need to pass something to calm the markets. If they do their usual nothing, there may be a panic, and that rarely ends well for anyone.

Unfortunately, I think the economy is going somewhere, if they don't act, and it isn't up.
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#74
swampy wrote:
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Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski's comment just came over my interweb.

"We need solutions, not John McCain's grandstanding. Congress must take prompt but deliberate action to resolve the credit crisis. John McCain returning to Washington, does nothing to move us forward. Instead, he is putting politics in front of finding a real solution to this issue."

Mikulski (D-Md.) is a proud liberal and backed Hillary Clinton in the primaries.

Grandstanding? Wait, I thought McCain was elected by the people of Arizona to represent them in the Senate. So he goes back to Washington to _do_his_job_ he's grandstanding? Gutenberg... thanks for assuaging my need for a good laugh.

Of course, Obama doesn't want to touch this thing with a ten foot pole. He (and Dodd and Frank et all) are all so deep in doo-doo over their financial "interests". Now with the FBI investigating the movers and shakers (among them some Obama's advisors who headed up Fannie Mae) Obama is avoiding Washington like the plague. I can't wait to see what the FBI comes up with.
If Mr. McCain is so concerned about his presence in Washington, how did he come to miss over 60% of all Senate votes last year. His voting record ----> http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category...n_id=53270

Having both Presidential candidates land in the middle of a very complicated financial negotiation will bring as much help as having them land in a New Orleans after a hurricane. It will only add to the problem. It's all political and even worse all being driven by a member of the "Keating Five".

The debate should go on as planned, then let what's left of the McCain campaign suspend itself for a week or two.
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#75
One more reason McCain prefers to not debate ---> http://wizbangblue.com/2008/09/23/john-m...-video.php
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#76
Note that in those clips McCain actually goes so far as to deride accounting and accountability.
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#77
mikeylikesit wrote:
[quote=swampy]
[quote=Gutenberg]
Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski's comment just came over my interweb.

"We need solutions, not John McCain's grandstanding. Congress must take prompt but deliberate action to resolve the credit crisis. John McCain returning to Washington, does nothing to move us forward. Instead, he is putting politics in front of finding a real solution to this issue."

Mikulski (D-Md.) is a proud liberal and backed Hillary Clinton in the primaries.

Grandstanding? Wait, I thought McCain was elected by the people of Arizona to represent them in the Senate. So he goes back to Washington to _do_his_job_ he's grandstanding? Gutenberg... thanks for assuaging my need for a good laugh.

Of course, Obama doesn't want to touch this thing with a ten foot pole. He (and Dodd and Frank et all) are all so deep in doo-doo over their financial "interests". Now with the FBI investigating the movers and shakers (among them some Obama's advisors who headed up Fannie Mae) Obama is avoiding Washington like the plague. I can't wait to see what the FBI comes up with.
If Mr. McCain is so concerned about his presence in Washington, how did he come to miss over 60% of all Senate votes last year. His voting record ----> http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category...n_id=53270

Having both Presidential candidates land in the middle of a very complicated financial negotiation will bring as much help as having them land in a New Orleans after a hurricane. It will only add to the problem. It's all political and even worse all being driven by a member of the "Keating Five".

The debate should go on as planned, then let what's left of the McCain campaign suspend itself for a week or two.

How many voting opportunities does that website state Obama missed , Roger ?

Is 8 % less a lot or a little, today ?

More telling is to spend some time looking at what each candidate DID vote yay or nay on for the last 2 years.







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When did the Senate or the House start allowing proxy voting ?




Change the rules for sake of argument ?
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#78
Hit a nerve did I bill?
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#79
McCain's Financial Crisis Timeline

When John McCain held an unexpected news conference mid-Wednesday afternoon he addressed the current economic crisis with direness previously unseen. His campaign would be suspended, he told reporters, in order to work on the bailout legislation in Congress. The debate scheduled with Barack Obama on Friday night, he added, could be postponed.

Observers, critics, even fellow Republicans, were left wondering: where did this sense of urgency come from? After all, it was this past Sunday that McCain hinted on 60 Minutes that he would support the bailout -- "we have to stop the bleeding" -- only to express deep criticisms on Monday and then admit he hadn't even read the three-page proposal on Tuesday.

"I have not had a chance to see it in writing," said the Senator. "I have to examine it."

The move permeated with political opportunism: an attempt by McCain to grab the leadership mantle he did not own and divert attention from poll numbers that were plummeting. Indeed, on Wednesday morning a Washington Post-ABC poll had McCain trailing Obama 52 percent to 43 percent among likely voters. The internals were even worse: 54 percent of white voters with economic anxiety favored Obama.

So McCain changed the script, announcing his imminent departure from the campaign trail. And Democrats in Congress were left (somewhat angrily) scratching their heads.

"We're trying to rescue the economy, not the McCain campaign," said Rep. Barney Frank.

"I'm delighted that John is expressing himself on this issue," said Chris Dodd, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee. "I have heard form Obama numerous occasions these last couple days. I have never heard from John McCain on the issue... I'm just worried a little bit that sort of politicizing this problem, sort of flying in here, I'm beginning to think this is more of a rescue plan for John McCain and not a rescue plan for the economy."

McCain's mixed messaging on the bailout proposal was not just bizarre. It was emblematic of his actions the entire week. Indeed, the Senator has been all over the map when it comes to addressing the current situation. When the market crisis originally surfaced, McCain - now infamously - was the one to declare that the fundamentals of the economy were strong. Later he would call the situation the worst since World War II.

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Even his actions on Wednesday seemed either oddly calculated or at conflict with the image he was trying to present. It was, in fact, Obama who first proposed to form a unity front in addressing the issue, calling McCain at 8:30 in the morning to discuss the issuance of a joint statement. The call went unreturned for six hours. McCain's campaign would later claim he was huddling with economic advisers. But during that time he made a scheduled stop with Lady Lynn de Rothschild, a high society New York Democrat who recently endorsed his campaign. Rothschild did not return repeated request for comment.

At 2:30 the two candidates finally connected and agreed on the idea of a co-authored declaration of principles. But by the time Obama got back to his hotel room, McCain had already declared his campaign's suspension. If the idea seemed impromptu, it surely wasn't. The website PolitickerCO posted talking points that aides to the Arizona Republican had sent to one another to help manage the candidate's newly stated position.

And then, after McCain told late night host David Letterman that he could not make his scheduled appearance on his show because of urgency of the situation, he still managed to swing by CBS Evening News with Katie Couric, much to Letterman's dismay. That interview, a spokesperson for the station told the Huffington Post, had been arranged shortly after McCain had temporary halted his campaign - a curious move for a candidate who was asking his opposition to drop everything and get back to Washington with him.

"Clearly there was news today," said a spokesperson for the station. "We asked for an interview and he said yes."

In fact, the Senator is still scheduled to appear at Bill Clinton's Global Initiative event in New York on Thursday, before heading to D.C.

In essence, at the same time McCain was warning of the danger of inaction, he himself was not moving with haste. And there is some question - bordering on concern - about the role he would actually play once back in Congress. As one Senate staffer told the Huffington Post: "McCain's little gambit really runs the risk of mucking up the works, maybe even delaying a deal. This is complex stuff, he's had zero involvement so far."


And yet, by the time McCain arrives on Capitol Hill the contours of a bailout proposal may already be in place. On Wednesday evening, President Bush hinted that he was ready to acquiesce on several principles of the proposed legislation - to the enthusiasm of Obama. In the House of Representatives, meanwhile, Rep. Barney Frank declared that Democrats had reached an agreement on a plan and had the votes to pass it.

McCain, for all the dramatics, could prove irrelevant.

"We are pleased to report we are making bipartisan progress on a rescue proposal for our financial markets," said Chris Dodd and Sen. Chuck Schumer in a joint statement. "During these discussions, we have received significant cooperation and constructive feedback from the other side of the aisle -- with one notable exception. Apart from his unproductive criticisms made from afar, we have heard nothing from Senator McCain on these critical issues. Now is certainly not the time for him to inject presidential politics into these delicate discussions."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/24...29118.html
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#80
McCain's "suspension of his campaign" was a huge mistake. It makes it appear that he is afraid to debate Obama. A different view, equally bad, is heard in the rumors now spreading that this is an effort to move the debate to the slot reserved for the VP debate and cancel the VP debate altogether (because Palin will look so bad).

His idea that he can't debate because he has to think about the economy also suggests that that he can't fart and chew gum at the same time.

It is obvious that the White House got ticked off that McCain was acting as if He had to swoop down on DC like Superman and save the economy: hence this sudden meeting with Bush, a move to reaffirm who the President of this country actually is by changing McCain's trip to DC from the arrival of the Savior into a mere response to a call from the President.

McCain managed to tick off pretty much everyone with this "suspend the campaign" gambit, including David Letterman, and I think he is going to seriously regret suggesting it in the first place.
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