So how's is today's shootings going look to the folks that said one gun @ VT would have prevented senseless deaths?-gcti

[Rolando]

In Oct 2001, I tried to drive thru Fort Sam Houston, like I always used to. Nice Lawns, etc. An attractive 20 yr old femaie came up to my car, holding a very imposing M16 ( I noticed her companion hung back, but very alert and ready). I explained I was trying to get to broadway...she advised me to take a left and continue on, and NOT to turn anywhere!

I did.

[Mac1337]

Dennis S wrote:
So, let me get this straight. We should let kids carry guns to class so they could be heroes and whip them out and nail the bad guys, but in the military, where men are men and know how to use weapons, they keep them locked up?

Great point. The fact is that military too is subject to political correctness. Even in a church they couldn't slaughter as many people. We still know very little.

[Mac1337]

Greg wrote:
I thought Swampy's point was a good one. Nevertheless, I'm hoping this degenerates into the usual liberal/conservative, "no, YOU'RE wrong" sort of thread. Those make me feel very, very smart.

Degenerate? The subject line alone screams politics.

[Greg]

It may not have started high-falutin', but the second post brought up some interesting ideas. Then, we could've seen conversation and stuff.

So, things should go to hell, shortly.

[Mac1337]

If you want to argue for the military personnel to carry guns on the base I am with you. As I said, the mindset that simply carrying a gun makes you a danger has filtered down to the military it looks like. They are as susceptible to politics as Coke executives.

[$tevie]

My husband served in the early sixties and he told me tonight that you did not carry loaded weapons on the base back then unless you were on the range or pulling guard duty. That's four decades ago for the math-challenged among us. So this is not some recent "PC" thing.


PS boys: "This is my weapon, this is my gun - this one's for shooting, this one's for fun." Military personnel don't carry "guns".

[Mac1337]

The moral of the story: When guns are outlawed only Malik Hasan carries guns.

[OWC Jamie]

Gutenberg wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
It is doubly sad that some people couldn't wait for ambulances to even reach the morgue before taking cheap political shots. He had posted on blogs that suicide bombers are like soldiers throwing themselves on grenades to save their comrades. We will find a long trail of red flags that were "missed".

Where did you get THAT?
Just cut and paste "suicide bombers are like soldiers throwing themselves on grenades to save their comrades"into a WWW search pane .
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=suicide+bombers+are+like+soldiers+throwing+themselves+on+grenades+to+save+their+comrades&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&rlz=1W1HPIA_en

Like one might do when a link doesn't work.

[Lux Interior]

I served six years active duty.

I only had a loaded weapon once, at the range (hit 30/30 with a .45).

I carried an unloaded .45 once while on watch in port, during an anti-terrorism exercise. Since we weren't really in an alert status, I didn't have any ammo.

But even the guys who were normally armed in port didn't have their weapons loaded unless there was a threat. I imagine that's changed somewhat after the USS Cole & 9-11.

Anyway, I agree with swampy that military bases are not rife with armed individuals. Try and run the gate, and you will get shot, yeah, but if you belong on base, you can find an "undefended" part pretty easily.

[Lux Interior]

billb wrote:
Just cut and paste "suicide bombers are like soldiers throwing themselves on grenades to save their comrades"into a WWW search pane .

Let me guess...that results in this thread being at the top?