Brown Wins it!

[Gutenberg]

We hired those idiots to come up with comprehensive health care reform. Not health insurance reform, health care reform. The idiots could not get it done with a 60-vote majority. Get rid of them all.

[Mac1337]

Wingnuts won! In MA of all places. How sweet it is. It just show that people were sick of Ted too but out of respect kept voting for him. As soon as he was out, they threw out his party too. Oh, all those who were drooling over Europe this, Europe that might as well get themselves a ticket. It ain't gonna be Europe here anytime soon. No 6 week vacations for you.

[rgG]

Gutenberg wrote:
We hired those idiots to come up with comprehensive health care reform. Not health insurance reform, health care reform. The idiots could not get it done with a 60-vote majority. Get rid of them all.

I couldn't agree with you more. I am fed up with the do nothings and the obstructionists. A kindergarten class could get more done.

[samintx]

Mike Sellers wrote:


The health care isn't dead because of this. The House could approve the Senate version of the bill can be reconciled and passed before Brown takes office which probably won't be for another month.

according to what I heard Mass law puts the Senator elect in immediately and the other guy is out. But we can look for the Dems namely Harry Reid to try to stall it. The current senator from Mass has no right to vote now according to the law quoted that I heard.

[Mike Sellers]

rgG wrote: I think it is still possible that the health care bill will get passed, but it has been so watered down that I'm not sure that it really matters.

Here's a scenario:

Realizing he doesn't have filibuster-proof majority any longer, Obama calls Lieberman into the Oval Office and suggests he plant a big, sloppy wet one on his derriere. The bill gets resubmitted with a public option and everything else that got tossed to appease Joe, Republicans start the filibuster and then the Democrats offer up a batch of consumer-friendly legislation like preventing banks from debiting the largest check first from your account when funds are low, which allows them to smack you with excessive bounced check fees. But this can't be voted on because the Republicans have dead-locked the Senate. After a couple of months of this, the Republicans will look like the Grinch who stole your kid's college fund and they'll eventually relent and allow a vote.

But this all depends on the Democrats growing a pair so don't hold your breath.

[Carnos Jax]

Dakota wrote:
Wingnuts won! In MA of all places. How sweet it is. It just show that people were sick of Ted too but out of respect kept voting for him. As soon as he was out, they threw out his party too. Oh, all those who were drooling over Europe this, Europe that might as well get themselves a ticket. It ain't gonna be Europe here anytime soon. No 6 week vacations for you.

Before you declare how sweet it is and show your ignorance, you might want to check which end of the Republican spectrum Brown lies.

Also in regard to: "It just show that people were sick of Ted too but out of respect kept voting for him."

Just what makes you come to that conclusion? The same kind of thinking that made you believe that scientists in the 70's thought there would be global cooling?

Your ranting suggests that you're so partisan and desperate, that you'll leap to any little news as an affirmation of your self worth. If you put as much credence to all this Republican versus Democrat thing, how do you live with the fact that you lost so many people in the last election, that it put you into an anti-filibuster position?

[rgG]

Mike Sellers wrote:
[quote=rgG]I think it is still possible that the health care bill will get passed, but it has been so watered down that I'm not sure that it really matters.

Here's a scenario:

Realizing he doesn't have filibuster-proof majority any longer, Obama calls Lieberman into the Oval Office and suggests he plant a big, sloppy wet one on his derriere. The bill gets resubmitted with a public option and everything else that got tossed to appease Joe, Republicans start the filibuster and then the Democrats offer up a batch of consumer-friendly legislation like preventing banks from debiting the largest check first from your account when funds are low, which allows them to smack you with excessive bounced check fees. But this can't be voted on because the Republicans have dead-locked the Senate. After a couple of months of this, the Republicans will look like the Grinch who stole your kid's college fund and they'll eventually relent and allow a vote.

But this all depends on the Democrats growing a pair so don't hold your breath.
I would turn completely blue in the face before the Senate could get off their collective a$$es and actually get anything done. I am so disgusted with the whole lot of them. They are all useless, completely useless. Bought and paid for, each and every one on both sides of the aisle. Not a one of them should retain his/her seat the next time they are up for re-election.

[Mac1337]

Carnos Jax wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
Wingnuts won! In MA of all places. How sweet it is. It just show that people were sick of Ted too but out of respect kept voting for him. As soon as he was out, they threw out his party too. Oh, all those who were drooling over Europe this, Europe that might as well get themselves a ticket. It ain't gonna be Europe here anytime soon. No 6 week vacations for you.

Before you declare how sweet it is and show your ignorance, you might want to check which end of the Republican spectrum Brown lies.

Also in regard to: "It just show that people were sick of Ted too but out of respect kept voting for him."

Just what makes you come to that conclusion? The same kind of thinking that made you believe that scientists in the 70's thought there would be global cooling?

Your ranting suggests that you're so partisan and desperate, that you'll leap to any little news as an affirmation of your self worth. If you put as much credence to all this Republican versus Democrat thing, how do you live with the fact that you lost so many people in the last election, that it put you into an anti-filibuster position?
The wingnuts one. That's all you need to know. You want to bring up Iraq, Haliburton, Blackwater, Abu Graib, patriot act, waterboarding, tax cuts for the rich, be my guest. None worked. How long was your side working on this, 60 years? Looks like you just have to try harder.

[Carnos Jax]

So when faced with a question(s), all you can give is a non-sensical answer and go hide your head in the sand? You complain you're being picked on or that no one will take you seriously on this side, only to sound like a kindergartener (no offense to kg's around the world) when attempted to engage in conversation. Do you wonder why people post pictures of tables when talking to you?

[JoeH]

samintx wrote:
[quote=Mike Sellers]


The health care isn't dead because of this. The House could approve the Senate version of the bill can be reconciled and passed before Brown takes office which probably won't be for another month.

according to what I heard Mass law puts the Senator elect in immediately and the other guy is out. But we can look for the Dems namely Harry Reid to try to stall it. The current senator from Mass has no right to vote now according to the law quoted that I heard.
He is not the Senator elect until the election is certified by the state's Secretary of State. That will take the official counts being received and the absentee ballots counted first. Should take a couple weeks.