The writing is on the wall...

[Gutenberg]

If neither side is shutting down, then why are people still bitching? Seriously, there is no reason to be ungracious about this. OWC has provided these forums free of charge for eight years, and I am sure some of the comments here and on the other side make Larry grind his molars. I think we need to remember that we are at a friend's house, and behave accordingly.

[Ted King]

Gutenberg wrote:
If neither side is shutting down, then why are people still bitching? Seriously, there is no reason to be ungracious about this. OWC has provided these forums free of charge for eight years, and I am sure some of the comments here and on the other side make Larry grind his molars. I think we need to remember that we are at a friend's house, and behave accordingly.

+1

[Mac-A-Matic]

Gutenberg wrote:
If neither side is shutting down, then why are people still bitching? Seriously, there is no reason to be ungracious about this. OWC has provided these forums free of charge for eight years, and I am sure some of the comments here and on the other side make Larry grind his molars. I think we need to remember that we are at a friend's house, and behave accordingly.

I'm in agreement with you on this one. It's up to them to implement whatever rules they desire. It is also the choice of the participants to continue on or go elsewhere.

The greatest irony in all of this hoopla about the political forum going away was Black's insistence that there were a bunch of whiny tattletales running to the moderators for any and every perceived slight - and that there was some sort of right-wing conspiracy to get rid of the political side.

The ironic part of it all is that I get a message from a MRF Moderator informing me that one of my posts was edited because I had used Black's real first name in the post (a name that has been recognized and answered in other threads).

So, it turns out that the person whipping up the conspiracy theory and admonitions about tattletales (and insinuated that I whined to the moderators myself) is the one who runs to the moderators himself...

Ironic.

[Gutenberg]

Oh, stop. Drop it, Mac. Grow up already.

[Mac-A-Matic]

Gutenberg wrote:
Oh, stop. Drop it, Mac. Grow up already.

I'm not the one whining to moderators because someone on here wasn't "nice" to me...

[$tevie]

I wouldn't assume that Black complained. The moderarion has changed and this could have been a well-intentioned error. Or someone else could have complained. Or maybe Black did complain but all they did was remove his name, right? No harm no foul.

[Mac-A-Matic]

$tevie wrote:
I wouldn't assume that Black complained. The moderarion has changed and this could have been a well-intentioned error. Or someone else could have complained. Or maybe Black did complain but all they did was remove his name, right? No harm no foul.

$tevie-
I don't need to assume (nor presume) that Black was the complainant. The moderator private messaged me that it was Black making the complaint. No error there and it wasn't "someone else" that complained. Quite ironic considering his protestations about complainants and some sort of "right-wing conspiracy" to shut down this forum.

But let's look back on this...

$tevie wrote:
I probably reported posts a few other times, but as a rule I wouldn't resort to that because it is indeed tattle taling.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551110,page=4

Black wrote:
But don't forget we have a few individuals here who have been working to disappear this forum, so not everybody who casts this side in a negative light is being genuine.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,1551287,page=1

Black wrote:
So they intentionally provoke and provoke until they have a reason to hammer the "report' link and complain to Larry directly that everyone's mean to them.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551110,page=4

Black wrote:
They have been numbered for a while. The forum ownership very likely sympathizes with the right wing foot soldiers who have been intent on making it go away, so they win.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,1551287,page=1

max wrote:
The parallel universe starts with Howard's fantasy and as an attempt to divert any attention from where that problem actually originated.....

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,1551287,page=1

OWC Larry wrote:
Bottom line is that it's not being used in to the original framework and the small group who continue to utilize it are continually offended and reporting each other.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551110,page=1

OWC Larry wrote:
...nearly all of the same people who report posts cause they have become personal post personal attacks themselves.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551110,page=2

max wrote:
ditch the snitch....

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551110,page=4

RgrF wrote:
This is really about the squeaky wheel syndrome. There will always be a small number of thin skinned posters who will consume a disproportionate amount of moderator time.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551110,page=3

haikuman wrote:
However I feel it is very simple to use the TOS. If someone is calling someone else a troll, or a misogynist, or if they are posting a person is fxxxked up because they do not agree with them
remove them from the mix, it's simple stuff.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551380

$tevie wrote:
This is absurd. All the solutions being suggested are punishing the majority because a minority of thin-skinned cry babies are making trouble by harrassing the admins. It's ludricous.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551380

max wrote:
...I dont care who they are.
I never cried for my mommy
If you cannot take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
I have no misapprehensions. I dont care who they are.

Oh, wait, you are one, are you not?
That is hysterical. Now all the protestations make sense.
Are you a secret right winger (according to Howard)?....

In this context, does it really matter who they are?
If they're being a PITA to the moderators, then I see nothing wrong with throwing them under bus/voting them off the island/etc.

Exactly, it does not matter who they are.
Ditch them.....

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1551110,page=4

$tevie wrote:
I am finding it disingenuous to complain that people aren't nice to each other when that is the way it always was.

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,1551287,page=1

[August West]

It appears that someone other than Black has the problem.

[RgrF]

It takes more than one poster to bring forth Squeaky Wheel Syndrome.

[Black]

Pete/Trouble/Mac-a-matic's behavior towards me crossed a line, using my real name as a taunt in threads that I wasn't even participatory in. When I see myself or others being treated in a harrassing manner, I absolutely report it. It's disappointing that the moderator chose to frame their communication in a way that was likely to fuel additional hostilities. I had already decided that I was no longer engaging the user behind this account, and hope to be able to continue not to. Would appreciate some "self-policing" here.