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Dumb Dumb Dumb teen with lighter
#21
Hal's ok to have his opinions.

I will note , Hal, that my guns are for a hobby, not protection. For protection I have Chihuahuas and a police department whose response time averages less than 5 minutes. And more importantly I live in a very safe neighborhood where we can leave the doors unlocked .
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#22
When I hold you in my arms
And I feel my finger on your trigger
I know nobody can do me no harm

Because happiness is a warm gun mama
Happiness is a warm gun, yes it is
Bang bang, shoot shoot
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#23
hal,

There are some folks (quite a few, actually) that use guns only for hunting. They feel they don't need access to the guns except during hunting season.

hal wrote:
Damn cbelt - you're too close to the forest to see the trees.

You just admitted that in spite of your careful habits, your kid came MUCH, MUCH closer to accidentally killing himself than he would have if you didn't have any guns around.

The solution? Take the safe keys and leave them at work. Great - now you're safe from accident.

But you're also not protected by your guns anymore...

So what is the purpose again?

Statistics are clear - households WITH guns are more likely to have a death by gunshot than those without. Get rid of the guns...

[quote=cbelt3]
In fact quite the opposite. I once caught my then teenaged son fiddling around with a .20 gage shotgun shell he had taken from the gun safe after he found my keys and opened the safe up. He had removed the gunpowder and was experimenting with burning it.
I took the following steps:
1) confiscated all ammunition.
2) locked the safe, and left the keys in my desk at work.
3) Took him to the back yard, gave a full safety lecture. Handed out protective goggles and gloves. Then we carefully and safely cut apart a round, showed him the parts, then spent an hour showing him how gunpowder worked.

And after that he said "you do know you sucked all the fun out of that !"

Mission accomplished !
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#24
Decades ago my family was on a walk in our neighborhood when we heard what we thought was a transformer explosion.

Turns out about a mile away some teens in a basement had cut open a large fire extinguisher and were busy filling it with black powder.

Then another teen lit a cigarette as they were coming down the basement stairs.

Only the teen directly next to the extinguisher was killed, but IIRC the home was condemned due to foundation damage.
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