Relief for Mynamar

[samintx]

But why is Pence the one announcing money being sent? I am glad this country is off my "go to" list. We got north but not that far north. It was just before the election. The lady elected has turned a blind eye unfortunately.

Incidently, the Burmese called their country BURMA not Mynamar.

[max]

samintx wrote:
The lady elected has turned a blind eye unfortunately.
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It is their country, their Moslems, their problem, their decisions, not yours.
Or is it that you know better how "the poor brown people" should run their country, deal with their immigration?....

[OWC Jamie]

samintx wrote:

Incidently, the Burmese called their country BURMA not Mynamar.

If you support the brutal crackdowns on democratiic activism and minorities you call it Myanmar, you know, like Obama does.

[$tevie]

max wrote:
[quote=samintx]
The lady elected has turned a blind eye unfortunately.
.

It is their country, their Moslems, their problem, their decisions, not yours.
Or is it that you know better how "the poor brown people" should run their country, deal with their immigration?.... max, it sounds as if you are unfamiliar with what is going on over there. You seem to be confused.

[DeusxMac]

$tevie wrote:
[quote=max]
[quote=samintx]
The lady elected has turned a blind eye unfortunately.
.

It is their country, their Moslems, their problem, their decisions, not yours.
Or is it that you know better how "the poor brown people" should run their country, deal with their immigration?.... max, it sounds as if you are unfamiliar with what is going on over there. You seem to be confused.
If he's marginally familiar with such a topic, he'll tell everybody what they should be doing.
If he's unfamiliar with it, he'll tell everybody they have no business telling anybody else.

[max]

DeusxMac wrote:
If I am even marginally familiar with such a topic, (which is usually highly unlikely) I will tell everybody what they should be doing.
If I am unfamiliar with it, I will tell everybody they have no business telling anybody else.

Projection, projection, projection.
That is a perfect description of your own behaviour, DeusxMac, unlike you, some of us are not provincial yokels.
Of course you also failed to mention that while you have no clue about the subject, which is the usual occurrence, you start posting gigantic wiki excerpts, illustrating perfectly your ignorance of the subject and its context.. ....

[max]

$tevie wrote:
[quote=max]
[quote=samintx]
The lady elected has turned a blind eye unfortunately.
.

It is their country, their Moslems, their problem, their decisions, not yours.
Or is it that you know better how "the poor brown people" should run their country, deal with their immigration?.... max, it sounds as if you are unfamiliar with what is going on over there. You seem to be confused.
I am sure you are going to edumacate me on "what is going on over there".
Apparently by reading news releases written by the superior and civilized "reporters", you are now an expert on foreign policy, foreign cultures and are able to dictate local policy to the poor natives.
I do not have your racist, colonialist streak of "White Man's Burden", telling locals of how they should behave.
Unlike you, unlike some other tourists here, I actually spend the time living with people involved, learning their culture, understanding their problems, their issues, the negatives and their positives.
That understanding makes me successful.
That is also the reason for my consistent stand against us getting involved in the losing situations like Sudan, Syria, Libya and Somalia, or getting out of Afghanistan the minute we got Bin Laden.
Burma is not any different.
Even you, hon, have managed to learn from my posts, after your initial unwavering support for Obama numerous attempts to intervene in Syria (until the lessons of his Libyan adventure sunk in), you started see things my way, that we should stay out of the country, pretty much quoting me word for wprd...

In case you do want to understand much more than what the shallow mass media has covered of Burma ethnic problems, you can start a separate tread on that subject and I will be happy to give you an in depth explanation.....

[$tevie]

You haven't addressed the post I was referring to. You called it an immigration problem.

You sure do love to make up what other people are all about. You're really bad at it, however.

PS: how long did you live in Burma, btw? Since you claim you have intimate knowledge by living in other cultures.

Here you go, max. Here's a much better explanation than your silly diatribe about what a whiz kid you are.
https://qz.com/1074906/rohingya-the-oil-...ee-crisis/

I know from AS how much you hate Muslims, and for you to pretend that you are the advocate of the brown man and a friend to all cultures is the height of comedy.

[max]

There you go again Stevie, back yo your hate filled stereotyping and typecasting.
On top of strawmen and your usual lack of reading comprehension....

$tevie wrote:
I know from AS how much you hate Muslim....

I am sure you can show us where I specifically declared my hate for Moslems, hon.
Or is it simply, once again, you failed to comprehend my statement of understanding Moslems, living with them, working with them, being in business with them as partners, attending their weddings, their funerals, being claimed as a member of a Moslem family to point of being a stand for the groom's father, as indicative of what you see as hate, hon?
Or are you just projecting your own rabid xenophobia on anybody who shows you full of hot air?....

$tevie wrote:
You haven't addressed the post I was referring to. You called it an immigration problem.

But I did address, it hon, quite proactively, too:

max wrote:
In case you do want to understand much more than what the shallow mass media has covered of Burma ethnic problems, you can start a separate tread on that subject and I will be happy to give you an in depth explanation.....

is that comprehension problem of yours rearing its ugly head, again?...

yet you decided to go with the 5 cent explanation for the feeble minded....

$tevie wrote:
Here you go, max. Here's a much better explanation than your silly diatribe about what a whiz kid you are.
https://qz.com/1074906/rohingya-the-oil-...ee-crisis/

in fact that idiotic article explains nothing, that oil pipelines has very little with Buddhist land grabbing of Moslem settled lands. The mining and most of the Chinese developments are not happening in the areas inhabited by the Moslems, but by other multitudes of ethnic groups, including Chinese. And majority of that is the northern states.
Unlike you and your ignorant reporters, Asians tend to look at things from a much longer perspective of time.
Burma's Moslem immigration problem did not occur today, but under the rule of your civilized people who knew what is better for the poor natives, the British colonial rulers you are trying so hard to imitate.
Back in the late 19th century, all done despite Burmese opposition. When the British got out, they left Burmese holding the bag. Now the natives are dealing with it the way they understand.
The present government, including the paradigm of Burmese democracy, Suu Kyi, is also on board to remedy their immigration problem by sending the Bengalis back. She may utter internationally necessary palliatives, but nobody is under illusion that she does not condone the policy.
Is somebody making money on this, I am sure that everybody involved, but Suu Kyi, is going to get their pockets filled. That is the way it works over there.
But the projects mentioned in your half baked article have very little to do with the ethnic cleansing going on in Burma today. It is quite asinine to imagine a pipeline displacing multitudes of people of one ethnic group only. We have hundreds and hundreds of these with a very minimal impact.

In fact Bill Clinton's taking apart Serbia, ripping out Kosovo, for recently (historically speaking) settled Moslem immigrants, breaking the system of inviolate borders of postwar states, was a lesson Burmese do not want to repeat, much more of a factor, much more relevant than some Chinese pipeline....