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PSA: California - Wed midnight PG&E shutting off electric power in 34 counties
#21
vision63 wrote:
[quote=RgrF]
Imagine the Michigan upper peninsula populated with millions of dead and dying trees and you might get a feel for what California has to deal with.

The entire state of Michigan has fewer people than the single county of L.A.
Probably true. The same could be said for most states.
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#22
Also, many power lines in those areas are over brush and scrub where a strong enough wind, e.g., can break a power line and it falls hot onto the dry brush. It isn't necessarily a tree or a limb falling on a power line breaking it that starts the fire. Add a Santa Ana event and...

The entire state of Michigan has fewer people than the single county of L.A.

Lots of room for you all to move here and avoid those brush fires, as well as the earthquakes, droughts, rattlesnakes, mudslides, scorpions, black widows, volcanoes, traffic (stopped dead on the 405 and Sunset at midnight Sunday or the Bay Bridge at 7:30am Monday)...
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#23
RgrF wrote:
City of LA has it's own power grid, it's not affected by PG&E. The rest of LA County is in the same PG&E boat but the outages are pretty much confined to rural and northern counties. I didn't think Oakland would be included.

LA County is SCE, which is prepared for planned outages throughout southern/eastern California.

https://www.scemaintenance.com/content/s.../psps.html
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#24
Here's excerpt from an email I got from a friend in the area.

"PG&E - those smucks!
If the food in my refrigerator spoils, there will be some Kapparot Swinging for sure!!"
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#25
So, no electricity to essentially millions in the less populated, and even remote areas.

The IDIOTS living in the dense population centers who have systematically pissed away 2nd Ammendment rights, have power, and thus security. And those who got outvoted by shear mass, are left without power for days, maybe even weeks, and have less rights and abilities to protect themselves.

Awesome. The uninformed rule again.
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#26
I heard on the news that the power will be off only... Maybe five days.

Sure, just like camping out.


To turn off power for up to 5 days "just in case the wind snaps a power line and starts a fire" is just unimaginable.

Agreed.

But I may get to experience the unimaginable.


The shutdown is the stuff criminals dream of.

The local FD, PD, and SO as well as many others are being heavily staffed for the event.

It'll be interesting to see what actually happens, for business not protected with battery backups, or the possibility of an enormity of simultaneous calls for service, medical and criminal.

Without a major event such as a football game or shooting to er- spark things, this may just be a non-event.

Like the Omega Man, I'll venture out in the daylight, though there may not be much point save for fresh air. Then I'll hunker down from dusk 'till dawn. And order a massive power brick if AMZ hasn't raised prices.

I haven't ventured outside today to see what the stores are doing. I don't know that Safeway has backup power. The local McDonald's doesn't.

I'm not on medication or any life support systems. I have water, batteries, flashlights, headlights, and books. And ammo.

I'll be ok, and hope the same for everybody else who may be affected..
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#27
Racer X wrote:
So, no electricity to essentially millions in the less populated, and even remote areas.

The IDIOTS living in the dense population centers who have systematically pissed away 2nd Ammendment rights, have power, and thus security. And those who got outvoted by shear mass, are left without power for days, maybe even weeks, and have less rights and abilities to protect themselves.

Awesome. The uninformed rule again.

It's no different than the Enron inspired 'brownouts' of yesteryear. Most of California was affected but city operated utilities were not. Not sure if private utilities are pro 2nd amendment and city owned are not or even what that has to do with the problem. Guess it's hard to get out there hunting in the midst of a forest fire.
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#28
RAMd®d wrote:
I heard on the news that the power will be off only... Maybe five days.

Sure, just like camping out.


To turn off power for up to 5 days "just in case the wind snaps a power line and starts a fire" is just unimaginable.

Agreed.

But I may get to experience the unimaginable.


The shutdown is the stuff criminals dream of.

The local FD, PD, and SO as well as many others are being heavily staffed for the event.

It'll be interesting to see what actually happens, for business not protected with battery backups, or the possibility of an enormity of simultaneous calls for service, medical and criminal.

Without a major event such as a football game or shooting to er- spark things, this may just be a non-event.

Like the Omega Man, I'll venture out in the daylight, though there may not be much point save for fresh air. Then I'll hunker down from dusk 'till dawn. And order a massive power brick if AMZ hasn't raised prices.

I haven't ventured outside today to see what the stores are doing. I don't know that Safeway has backup power. The local McDonald's doesn't.

I'm not on medication or any life support systems. I have water, batteries, flashlights, headlights, and books. And ammo.

I'll be ok, and hope the same for everybody else who may be affected..

Yep, just think of those just using CPAP machines for their sleep apnea...w/o grid power or running a generator they'll need a hefty capacity battery (& a way to recharge it the next day) for every single night the power's off.
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#29
Yep, just think of those just using CPAP machines for their sleep apnea...

Yes, a former co-worker uses one and keeps a big 12V battery on standby for normal outages.

Fortunately, his apnea hasn't hit him too hard. and he should be ok with that for a couple - three days.

I feel fortunate.
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#30
most cpaps and bipaps will run off 12V
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