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Then a cop shot and killed the good guy.
https://apnews.com/article/colorado-shoo...c14afc5976
Johnny Hurley was hailed by police as a hero for shooting and killing a gunman they say had killed one officer and expressed hatred for police in a Denver suburb. But when another officer rushed in to respond and saw Hurley holding the suspect’s AR-15, he shot Hurley, killing him, police revealed Friday.
The disclosure helped clarify what happened on Monday when three people — Hurley, Arvada Police Officer Gordon Beesley and the suspected gunman, Ronald Troyke — died in a string of shootings in the historic downtown district of Arvada, an area with popular shops, restaurants, breweries and other businesses about 7 miles (10 kilometers) northwest of downtown Denver.
According to a timeline and video released by police, Troyke, 59, ambushed Beesley after he pulled his truck into a parking spot near Beesley’s patrol car as Beesley was responding to a report of a suspicious person.
The video shows Troyke running toward Beesley down an alley. When Beesley turns around, Troyke raises his gun and fires at him as two people stand nearby, police said. Beesley falls to the ground in the video.
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If we had just a few more good guys with guns, this could have been avoided. It's time the gov't took this gun violence thing seriously and give everyone more guns! It's the only way to be sure...
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Well, on the bright side, at least a second good guy with a gun didn’t shoot the first good guy with a gun who shot the bad guy with a gun. Pretty soon we could run out of good guys with guns.
hal wrote:
If we had just a few more good guys with guns, this could have been avoided. It's time the gov't took this gun violence thing seriously and give everyone more guns! It's the only way to be sure...
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As long as they shoot first and ask questions later, are they really good guys?
EDIT: Bad Guy shoots (Presumed) Good Guy
https://youtu.be/E8LeTqslK74
Arvada police share surveillance video of Olde Town shooting
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Maybe the NRA could give out tshirts for good guys with guns so the police would know not to shoot them. Tho I guess that messes up the whole concealed weapon thing.
Also this victim turns out to be a cop hating bugaloo boy with some extreme right wing stuff going on.
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Lemon Drop wrote:
Maybe the NRA could give out tshirts for good guys with guns so the police would know not to shoot them. Tho I guess that messes up the whole concealed weapon thing.
Also this victim turns out to be a cop hating bugaloo boy with some extreme right wing stuff going on.
The cop shooting guy, right? Not the cop shooter shooting guy shot by the cops.
(I’m not sure English was made to handle the 21st century United States.)
”The department on Friday released excerpts from a document written by Troyke in which he said he planned to kill as many Arvada police officers as he could, seeing his actions as a way to hold police accountable.
“We the people were never your enemy, but we are now,” it said.
Johnny Hurley was the samaritan victim shot by the police.
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Blankity Blank wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
Maybe the NRA could give out tshirts for good guys with guns so the police would know not to shoot them. Tho I guess that messes up the whole concealed weapon thing.
Also this victim turns out to be a cop hating bugaloo boy with some extreme right wing stuff going on.
The cop shooting guy, right? Not the cop shooter shooting guy shot by the cops.
(I’m not sure English was made to handle the 21st century United States.)
”The department on Friday released excerpts from a document written by Troyke in which he said he planned to kill as many Arvada police officers as he could, seeing his actions as a way to hold police accountable.
“We the people were never your enemy, but we are now,” it said.
Johnny Hurley was the samaritan victim shot by the police.
Yes thank you for the clarification!
Troyke, who killed the police officer and started this thing, was an extremist whose family was worried he might do something violent and crazy, according to Colorado Public Radio .
Hurley killed Troyke when he saw him retrieve an AR 15 from his truck, and Hurley appears to be a true tragic hero in every sense as he was shot by police when they arrived.
He may have saved many lives.
Tragic all around. Too many damn guns.
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Somehow it just occurs to me now that another, perhaps preferable way to stop a bad guy with gun is to take away his gun or make sure he can’t just go to the gun shop and buy one.
Three fewer lives lost.
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pdq wrote:
Somehow it just occurs to me now that another, perhaps preferable way to stop a bad guy with gun is to take away his gun or make sure he can’t just go to the gun shop and buy one.
Three fewer lives lost.
Yep, that's the theory behind gun responsibility laws. Also preventing accidents.
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Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=pdq]
Somehow it just occurs to me now that another, perhaps preferable way to stop a bad guy with gun is to take away his gun or make sure he can’t just go to the gun shop and buy one.
Three fewer lives lost.
Yep, that's the theory behind gun responsibility laws.
I’m one of those communists who are beyond that. Apart from hunting, why do we need guns? The real answer these days, it seems to me, it to protect ourselves from other people with guns.
…which suggests an alternate solution to me.
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