09-09-2022, 08:23 PM
Is it me or are we not hearing nearly as much about the "Judeo-Christian Tradition" and more about the U.S. being a Christian nation?
Judeo-Christian Tradition?
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09-09-2022, 08:23 PM
Is it me or are we not hearing nearly as much about the "Judeo-Christian Tradition" and more about the U.S. being a Christian nation?
09-09-2022, 08:30 PM
"Judeo-Christian" is a Christian idea, not a Jewish one. It is mostly a supersessionist concept wearing the clothing of ecumenism.
The Evangelicals are just getting bolder.
09-09-2022, 08:30 PM
No Jews refer to it as such.
It's purely lip-service 'inclusivity' mouthwash pushed by Christians.
09-09-2022, 09:44 PM
google shows (to my eye) a slight, general downward trend consistently over the past decade. No particular change in that trend recently. Twas a more popular term in the 00s, and that tracks with my experience.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F045tp
09-09-2022, 10:22 PM
A term that theologically doesn't mean anything but has been used by American politicians of both faiths to suggest inclusivity and community between adherents of the 2 faiths.
Two hundred years ago it was a reference to people who had converted from Judaism to Christianity. It's good to see this term fade. Along with all suggestion that the US is a theocracy. Both gotta go.
09-09-2022, 10:35 PM
Lemon Drop wrote: I've never heard this used by someone who is Jewish. Could you cite an example or two?
09-09-2022, 10:51 PM
Steve G. wrote: I've never heard this used by someone who is Jewish. Could you cite an example or two? Dr. Jonathan Sarna, a history and religion scholar, has written multiple books and essays about the concept, a "collision" as he calls it between Judaism and Christianity in America. In the aftermath of the Holocaust, rabbis and ministers worked to reduce antisemitism in the US by emphasizing the common moral threads in the 2 faiths...a "Judeo-Chrisitan " viewpoint that meant to foster unity and mutual understanding. This got flipped on it's head decades later and the term IMO now has a negative connotation, but that connotation has shifted a lot over time. Using the term doesn't mean you accept the 1970s right wing Christian interpretation of "Judeo-Chrisitan."
09-10-2022, 01:50 AM
Yeah, I think at this point it's been largely subverted by evangelicals masquerading as "messianic" Jews (a.k.a. "Christians who think it's okay to lie to recruit gullible Jews into their faith").
09-10-2022, 02:09 AM
Tiangou wrote: you mean both of them?
09-10-2022, 02:15 AM
Steve G. wrote: you mean both of them? I mean that there's no such thing as a "messianic" Jew. It's a made up thing. And when politicians refer to this nation's traditions as "Judeo-Christian," they're telling you to bend over and spread for them. |
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