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kj wrote:
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They also want to do away with federal student loans.
I know zero people who did their masters, med or law school without those.
How did JD pay for Yale?
Just a fwiw, not a pro-trump, but I got a graduate degree and my wife did as well living on an assistantship, and I don’t even think we had access to student loans. We got 10-12k a year, which was enough to live. I know my daughter’s ex-boyfriend was in grad school about a year ago and lived on his assistantship in Riverside on 30k+ (they successfully negotiated a raise). So I’m not sure student loans are a thing for graduate degrees, though they definitely are for undergraduate degrees.
50% of graduate degree holders have debt from those studies. Average balance is $100k. Medical students have the highest average student loan debt.
https://educationdata.org/student-loan-d...e%20school.
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kj wrote:
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They also want to do away with federal student loans.
I know zero people who did their masters, med or law school without those.
How did JD pay for Yale?
Just a fwiw, not a pro-trump, but I got a graduate degree and my wife did as well living on an assistantship, and I don’t even think we had access to student loans. We got 10-12k a year, which was enough to live. I know my daughter’s ex-boyfriend was in grad school about a year ago and lived on his assistantship in Riverside on 30k+ (they successfully negotiated a raise). So I’m not sure student loans are a thing for graduate degrees, though they definitely are for undergraduate degrees.
But where do you think the money for the assistantships comes from?
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pdq wrote:
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They also want to do away with federal student loans.
I know zero people who did their masters, med or law school without those.
How did JD pay for Yale?
Just a fwiw, not a pro-trump, but I got a graduate degree and my wife did as well living on an assistantship, and I don’t even think we had access to student loans. We got 10-12k a year, which was enough to live. I know my daughter’s ex-boyfriend was in grad school about a year ago and lived on his assistantship in Riverside on 30k+ (they successfully negotiated a raise). So I’m not sure student loans are a thing for graduate degrees, though they definitely are for undergraduate degrees.
But where do you think the money for the assistantships comes from?
No longer from NIH or any ither federal grant that had any words about diversity in it. Scientific inquiry is in trouble unless it's something Elmo wants.
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kj wrote:
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They also want to do away with federal student loans.
I know zero people who did their masters, med or law school without those.
How did JD pay for Yale?
Just a fwiw, not a pro-trump, but I got a graduate degree and my wife did as well living on an assistantship, and I don’t even think we had access to student loans. We got 10-12k a year, which was enough to live. I know my daughter’s ex-boyfriend was in grad school about a year ago and lived on his assistantship in Riverside on 30k+ (they successfully negotiated a raise). So I’m not sure student loans are a thing for graduate degrees, though they definitely are for undergraduate degrees.
The federal government gives schools funding for this. Well, they did.
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I wish grad school didn't require loans. Assistantships are competitive, and only available for a fraction of the students who would seek them. At smaller state universities there are no assistantships to get.
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kj wrote:
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They also want to do away with federal student loans.
I know zero people who did their masters, med or law school without those.
How did JD pay for Yale?
Just a fwiw, not a pro-trump, but I got a graduate degree and my wife did as well living on an assistantship, and I don’t even think we had access to student loans. We got 10-12k a year, which was enough to live.
So did I and everyone else in my PhD program, as well as my college friends who went to different universities (all molecular biology). But I am sure that depends on the field of study and does not apply to most expensive ones (like law and medicine).
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I recently looked at Master of Public Health programs concentrating in nutrition science. $70k for the remote program at UNC Chapel hill, no financial aid available to me except loans
50% of grad students borrow money. Usually a lot. I borrowed $25k for my 1st masters.
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dk62 wrote:
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They also want to do away with federal student loans.
I know zero people who did their masters, med or law school without those.
How did JD pay for Yale?
Just a fwiw, not a pro-trump, but I got a graduate degree and my wife did as well living on an assistantship, and I don’t even think we had access to student loans. We got 10-12k a year, which was enough to live.
So did I and everyone else in my PhD program, as well as my college friends who went to different universities (all molecular biology). But I am sure that depends on the field of study and does not apply to most expensive ones (like law and medicine).
The thing about lab sciences like molecular biology is that a significant proportion of the degree work involves working in a lab, so that salaries for the students as lab workers can be rationalized on the grants of the research advisors. In the biology program I was in, the department also had a general grant to support the students who were not yet working in labs. One way or the other, every grad student got their tuition covered for the two years of required coursework, and a living stipend for however long they did the lab work necessary for their dissertation. Not every institution could get this level of support, but at that time the national attitude supporting biomedical research was a big help.
Every discipline or school will have a different relationship/history with possible sources of funding.
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Speaking of assistantships, the state university I retired from does give them to grad students. They are a mix of teaching and research assistantships mostly, with some for other purposes. Teaching assistantships get funded out of the instructional budget as the grad students will be teaching course or leading discussion sections for undergrads. But research assistantships mostly come out of grant money.
There are departments which have enough money to provide some funding for all of their grads. But many are limited in funding, and may prioritize funding doctoral candidates. I know of many departments which have policy statements on their sites that ordinarily no masters degree candidates will get assistantships. The only option for many looking to get a masters is loans and part time jobs on or off campus. From the statistics I have seen in the past that was over half the grad student enrollment.
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pdq wrote:
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They also want to do away with federal student loans.
I know zero people who did their masters, med or law school without those.
How did JD pay for Yale?
Just a fwiw, not a pro-trump, but I got a graduate degree and my wife did as well living on an assistantship, and I don’t even think we had access to student loans. We got 10-12k a year, which was enough to live. I know my daughter’s ex-boyfriend was in grad school about a year ago and lived on his assistantship in Riverside on 30k+ (they successfully negotiated a raise). So I’m not sure student loans are a thing for graduate degrees, though they definitely are for undergraduate degrees.
But where do you think the money for the assistantships comes from?
Not student loans. Mine was a mix of teaching and research assistantships. Some of the research was a grant from Eli Lilly, so not necessarily federally funded. Not long ago I took a math class and a graduate student taught it, so it can’t be that unusual.
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