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my cat has a question...
#11
[quote MacMagus]

Imagine eating peanut butter sandwiches every day for a year. Even if it's on a mixed whole grain bread, you're undoubtedly missing nutrients.
this is a poor comparison. Peanut Butter sandwiches are not intended to be a complete food in the first place. Dry cat food, along with some of that grass you're supposed to keep for indoor cats - technically should meet all their nutritional needs. Personally, I feed dry most days with about 1x/week of wet. I buy decent quality food (Trader Joe's has good stuff for a decent price).

YMMV..

kiva
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#12
Mine eat whatever is there, but they really come running when I open a fresh bag. I would think it's like us eating cereal that has been open for awhile, if there's nothing else to eat we'll eat it, but it's definitely stale. Even with 4 cats I stay away from the jumbo bags.
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#13
Actually, as long as the food is of good quality, nutritionally complete, and the kitties like it, it's better to let them eat it all the time. That is, cats often react poorly to changes in their diet. My cats are freaks though: they won't even lick out a tuna can.
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#14
[quote Pam]Mine eat whatever is there, but they really come running when I open a fresh bag. I would think it's like us eating cereal that has been open for awhile, if there's nothing else to eat we'll eat it, but it's definitely stale. Even with 4 cats I stay away from the jumbo bags.
IMO, the cat is not reacting to the new bag in the way you may think. They're reacting to the *sound* of the new bag as a call to eat. They really aren't that bright...

:-)

kiva
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#15
[quote MacMagus]Feeding the same food all the time is probably not healthy for your cat.

Imagine eating peanut butter sandwiches every day for a year. Even if it's on a mixed whole grain bread, you're undoubtedly missing nutrients.

I buy two small bags at a time of different brands of food and mix them together in an airtight jug for my cat. I don't pay much attention to brand except that I avoid Iams because they're cruel to animals, Purina because I am fairly certain that it contributed to the death of one of my cats and anything exceptionally cheap.

I check to make sure that the protein content is high and the ash, corn gluten and organ meat content is low, which generally puts me into the premium stuff. And I have a bag of Science Diet tartar control food, which I mix in with the other stuff at about a 1:5 ratio. It keeps her teeth clean and white and her breath smelling nice.

One side-benefit to this diet: My cat is not a finicky eater.
Except a peanut butter sandwich isn't designed to be a complete diet. Pet foods are. There's even a statement on the bag to let you know. If you're feeding a diet tailored to address a specific problem (bladder stones, liver disease, whatever) this statement WILL say it isn't appropriate to feed healthy animals as a maintenance diet.

Dry food can get rancid, as one person posted. It is also prone to getting storage mites. These are harmless unless your pet develops an allergy to them. We recommend that dry food is stored in an airtight container, and that you don't store more than a month's supply. You should wash your container out with hot, soapy water in between fillings.

In general, if you are sticking with a national brand, you are probably taking care of your pet's nutritional needs. Most pet animals probably get better nutrition than most people in this country. And FWIW, for *any* brand of food you can find someone who thinks it is the bomb, and another who would not offer it to their worst enemy. My cat eats Purina Pro Plan. All of my pets have eaten Purina products. I don't necessarily recommend them as a given diet may not have the same outcome in other people's pets based on their specific animal's individual metabolism, etc. I never cared for the way my dog's coat looked when she was eating IAMS...yet I see plenty of dogs on this diet with great coats. Kira just did better on Pro Plan.

As far as feeding cats, specifically...any dry food probably has far more carbohydrate to it than they are really designed to deal with. Felines are pure carnivores, and as such, they have much higher protien needs than most other companion animals. Given what is available to people now, feeding a canned diet makes more sense--it is higher in protien than a dry food simply due to how both foods are manufactured. We see a lot of diabetes in cats these days, and it took us a while to understand that part of the reason for that was probably how we feed cats.

(Though I will cop to being a poor example to follow...my kitty Kiko eats dry food nearly exclusively Tongue )

Mmmmmm, its past lunch time here...

Jackie
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#16
My cat will not eat anything except dry food. He won't eat any brand of canned food (oh, how we tried). He won't eat human foods. He likes to take a couple of licks of the dog's canned food gravy once in a while, but two/three licks and he is over it. All he wants is dry food. Specifically, Purina Indoor Cat Formula dry food, although he will choke down other brands if forced to.

I heard from a vet years ago that the rise in diabetes in cats was thought to be connected to those soft-moist type foods, like the old Tender Vittles. I've never heard anything along those lines again, but it scared me off of them. Of course, our current cat would no doubt refuse those to eat that stuff, too.
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#17
My vets have always told me that as long as I am feeding a quality food that there is no reason to change brands/flavors/variety of food.

My cat is a very picky eater-she doesn't like treats and doesn't even like tuna water from canned tuna! Once in a while she likes a tiny piece of cheese and thats it.

She has been in Hills W/D for years and is doing very well on it. Before that, she was on Science Diet and did well with that, too. I do buy the big bags even though I just have the one cat. I keep the food in a big tupperware tub and there haven't been any problems.

My dog, on the other hand, couldn't handle Science Diet. I tried 9 foods before I found one that didn't upset his stomach in one way or another. Then he developed what we thought was an allergy so the vet put him on a special diet to try and pinpoint the problem.

He has been on Response FP for almost 6 months (in addition to a myriad of medications) and the situation hasn't improved. The Dr. told me last week that she wants me to take him to a dermatologist. Poor doggie. Sad

DM
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#18
Most dry cat food has over a 1 year shelf life. At least all the ones i have seen.

I just checked a bag of Purina one kitten food i got at the beginning of the month, and it says Sept 07 for the pull date.

So if your one cat can't eat a 20lb bag before it goes bad, there are bigger issues. I would get a storage container though, because yours will last a while. I am thinking in the 16-20 liter range.

the only thing i can offer beyond what DrSteggy said, was that the Kirkland Signature cat food is pretty mediocre quality from what the vets I have talked to. As a foster parent for the local shelter (free loaner kittens!!!!!!!!) I talk to a lot of different vets about sick or injured cats, so I get to ask a lot of questions, and they will answer me in ways they may not normally tell a regular pet parent/customer.
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#19
> cats often react poorly to changes in their diet.

Yes, but that is largely because the develop food allergies from not having a varied diet to begin with.
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#20
[quote MacMagus]> cats often react poorly to changes in their diet.

Yes, but that is largely because the develop food allergies from not having a varied diet to begin with.
Actually, you can't be allergic to something you've never had exposure to--an allergic reaction is your body responding inappropriately to a foreign protien--if you haven't ever seen lamb protien, for an example, you can't develop antibodies to it.

Jackie
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