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Gas price keeps going up in the mean while public transportations
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... remain a joke especially in southern CA. It takes 1 hour and a half for a one mile trip on a city bus from Arcadia to Monrovia (San Gabriel Valley). It takes 2 hours for a Simi-Valley transit for a 1/2 mile journey. In short, pure aggravations! What improvements to the existing public transportation infrastructure do you think should be done in your own regions? Do you think the billion dollar budget spending on the improvements will help or hurt in the long run as we, hopefully, become less dependent on oil? I shouldn't even contemplate on posting this question in the first place because there is no way out?

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#2
I think you got on the continental drift bus by mistake.
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#3
I'm surprised that fast and convenient mass transit didn't suddenly sprout from our streets the moment that gas went over $3/gal.
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[quote mattkime]I'm surprised that fast and convenient mass transit didn't suddenly sprout from our streets the moment that gas went over $3/gal.
Perhaps, it's psychological dependency ... we have grown so accustomed to our vehicles that letting go means losing personal independence.
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[quote mattkime]I'm surprised that fast and convenient mass transit didn't suddenly sprout from our streets the moment that gas went over $3/gal.
Nope, under this administration exactly the opposite happened. Federal funding for construction of new mass transit , or expansion of existing transit was reduced.
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kap --- mattkime is telling you it takes DECADES for mass transit alternatives to become viable alternatives to personal transportation ...

But for the moment forget about big projects light rail and just consider community "metro" buses. It takes many, many months before approval and funding can kick in so that they may be purchased and set up. And after all that, they still depend on existing roads.
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[quote JoeH][quote mattkime]I'm surprised that fast and convenient mass transit didn't suddenly sprout from our streets the moment that gas went over $3/gal.
Nope, under this administration exactly the opposite happened. Federal funding for construction of new mass transit , or expansion of existing transit was reduced.
Due to lack of funding or because the money has gone to contruct buildings, roads, and bridges in Iraq?
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[quote kap][quote JoeH][quote mattkime]I'm surprised that fast and convenient mass transit didn't suddenly sprout from our streets the moment that gas went over $3/gal.
Nope, under this administration exactly the opposite happened. Federal funding for construction of new mass transit , or expansion of existing transit was reduced.
Due to lack of funding or because the money has gone to contruct buildings, roads, and bridges in Iraq?
Due to lack of people like you getting involved with your local transit advocacy organization, making phone calls, writing letters. Posting to a non-local message board about it doesn't get you very far. And highlighting how much transit sucks -really- doesn't further the cause, it only reinforces the perceptions of people who aren't currently using it.

There are actually fair amounts of money earmarked for transit that end up not getting used every year, because we're letting it happen.
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#9
Cutting mass transit has been the easy way for politicians to claim they are cutting pork for 50 years. It's been easy to cut because poor people depend on it, while middle class and on up the economic ladder (i.e., those who have the money and influence) have alternatives.

On the other hand, automobiles have enjoyed massive subsidies, e.g. the entire interstate highway system. As a result, mass transit in many communities has been under-utilized, resulting in a negative feedback loop for mass transit.

Hence, when we need it most, it's not there.
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#10
damn, two posts about mass transit that i really agree with - IN A ROW!

maybe there is hope for change
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