voodoopenguin, which candidate has a more favourable image in UK?

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mattkime wrote:
I find it entertaining that someone would need to ask.

nah, I knew the answer, I just want to hear different points of view.

[Filliam H. Muffman]

karsen wrote:
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
I remember seeing a world poll that showed Obama would win like 96%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct...rackobama1

Obama polls really well in socialist countries, coincidence?
http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/
Is Australia socialist? Cuba is for McCain, so that means he appeals to communist countries?

[Black Landlord]

Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
[quote=karsen]
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
I remember seeing a world poll that showed Obama would win like 96%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct...rackobama1

Obama polls really well in socialist countries, coincidence?
http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/
Is Australia socialist? Cuba is for McCain, so that means he appeals to communist countries?
Go easy on Karsen, he just learned the word "socialist" from the McCain campaign.

[Racer X]

What I heard traveling in Hungary last month was that many are really looking forward to change. Period. Most look towards Obama, as they just don't have a lot of faith in McCain simply because he is a Republican, which makes him unpredictable in their eyes.

The problem is that the Republican Party has become not worthy of many people's trust overseas. It has nothing to do with the tennets that Republicans historically believe in. That's the camp I am in.

[karsen]

Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
[quote=karsen]
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
I remember seeing a world poll that showed Obama would win like 96%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct...rackobama1

Obama polls really well in socialist countries, coincidence?
http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/
Is Australia socialist? Cuba is for McCain, so that means he appeals to communist countries?
The answers to your questions seem painfully obvious, but I'll help since you asked:
1 - No, I believe they are considered a Federalist government.
2 - Yes, if Cuba is for McCain then at least one Communist country finds the old man appealing.

Any other questions?

[Jimmypoo]

This argument is how people like Bush get into power in the first place.

karsen wrote:
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
[quote=karsen]
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
I remember seeing a world poll that showed Obama would win like 96%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct...rackobama1

Obama polls really well in socialist countries, coincidence?
http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/
Is Australia socialist? Cuba is for McCain, so that means he appeals to communist countries?
The answers to your questions seem painfully obvious, but I'll help since you asked:
1 - No, I believe they are considered a Federalist government.
2 - Yes, if Cuba is for McCain then at least one Communist country finds the old man appealing.

Any other questions?

[voodoopenguin]

OK, I'm up now so will answer the question myself.

Totally, utterly and completely for Obama but that might be for a few different reasons.

Some people have looked at both candidates, evaluated it all properly and made their choice but they are probably in the minority. Others will have picked up on the news a few aspects of the candidates stands on things before choosing. Some will have a lean towards one or other of the two parties and will have chosen because of that. I suppose I would call them positive reasons.

On the negative side I would say that people were against McCain because of the link with Bush and do not get the impression that much would change. A while back there were a few people I talked to who were still thinking that they would choose him due to his experience however that all went away after Palin was picked as the running mate. I have not found one person who feels that she is in any way suitable for any high office in fact many have changed their attitude of US election watching from mild amusement to horror. There are many who are genuinely frightened of the situation where she might get control of what is still the most powerful country in the world. Do not think that this has anything to do with her sex, I'll come to that later.

As has been widely reported and has also been mentioned a few times by some of you in the US, during the Bush administration the USA has lost a lot of respect. You're American, you're big, you're bold, you're brash and we've always known that. Like any country you do some things which others like and some things they don't so there will always be some for and some against in the other countries. During the last few years the big, the bold and the brash has still been there but us outside have more and more got the impression that added to that is "we don't care about the rest of you". Over the years on this forum and the previous one many of us were on I would sometimes mention what an outsider feels about the USA. Some people would just smack me down with a 'So what? Who cares what you think?' but the majority would have some concern for how their country was perceived by the rest of the world. That still happens now and I'm glad to say that on these forums at least there still seems to be a majority who do care how their country is perceived however us outsiders have got the impression that the Bush administration has had an attitude which more and more goes towards the "Stuff you, we are bigger and we don't care what you think." This may not be what they are really thinking but I can say that that is the impression we get. For this reason a large number would want Obama just because he seems to be different from the present administration. He might turn out to have the same attitude but we would prefer to give him a chance.

Now we come on to skin colour. I have to say that a certain percentage of the reason why I am hoping Obama wins is because he is black and I know I am not alone in that. There is no getting away from it, I am sure that Obama would be supported by almost all non-white people here and a big reason, hopefully along with some others like policies, is his skin. So why am I, a white person, wanting Obama to win because he is black? Because it would show to the world that the USA is actually capable of doing something which just a short time ago would have been unheard of. It would show that you had taken another step forward and a step that the rest of the world would appreciate.

Going back to the 'sex thing'. We are not against Palin because of her sex as if Obama had lost to Clinton then I am sure that the greater majority would have been behind her as well. Some of those would be for a similar reason to Obama's support in that it would show that in her case, the USA is actually capable of accepting having a woman in the highest office in the land. This comes from someone who utterly detested what Thatcher did to our country, the only positive thing to me was that it showed we could elect a woman Prime Minister. Unfortunately she singlehandedly put back the cause of women several years once in office, but I digress!

That's it for the moment, time for my breakfast. Have a great election day and please vote, I am quite passionate about people using their right to vote.

[mikeylikesit]

Well put `penguin:thumbsup: