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swampy wrote:
The mission was to take down Saddam. Mission Accomplished.
That is not the mission sold by the Bush administration as the primary purpose to the Congress and to the people of the US. And since they actually brought into being the force known as al-Queda in Iraq, they even had the "fight against terrorism" backfire.
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Dakota wrote:
[quote=JoeH]
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Then you understand "Mission Accomplished". Great.
Yeah, he does and it is not what you want it to be. Or Bush and his cronies. I also have military connections, and if you think we reached "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq either back then or since, you did not learn anything from your spouse.
OK, now you have your chance to define "Mission Accomplished" in Afghanistan. You know, the war that we got "distracted" from and Obama is going to "win" it for us. I have a feeling that "the war is lost" there.
Since Osama has had 6 years to set up new hiding places, and the operations in Afghanistan were given only partial operational support, I suspect you are right. I hope that does not give you comfort. But those 6 years were given to the forces against us in Afghanistan by the Bush administration, there is no way to get back that lost time. At least Barack Obama is going to try and bring Osama in, it was not that important to Bush.
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The fact of the matter is that the Clinton law enforcement model in regards to terrorism just didn't work. The United States was forced to retool massively after the 9/11 attacks.
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Dakota wrote:
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If it was crazy you would have had something to say about it. Every word of it is true.
Gee, I thought only God was infallible. Maybe so:
Ted, you misunderstood. I meant every word that *I* said in my post was true. I haven't read Feith book. Only heard him interviewed once.
Okay. Not that I agree that everything you said was true, but "crazy" - no.
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Not at all a "non sequitur", actually. The book is about the Bush administration's strategy in regard to the GWOT.
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swampy wrote:
The mission was to take down Saddam. Mission Accomplished.
Bush got a little ahead of himself with the banner, then, didn't he?
Also, I thought the mission was to protect us from terrorists and WMDs. I don't recall either one being in Iraq in 2003.
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Dennis S wrote:
[quote=swampy]
The mission was to take down Saddam. Mission Accomplished.
Bush got a little ahead of himself with the banner, then, didn't he?
Also, I thought the mission was to protect us from terrorists and WMDs. I don't recall either one being in Iraq in 2003.
How much KNOWING that Iraq has no WMD worth to you? Nothing? Wouldn't it be comforting if we KNEW what Iran was up to?
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Dakota wrote:
[quote=Dennis S]
[quote=swampy]
The mission was to take down Saddam. Mission Accomplished.
Bush got a little ahead of himself with the banner, then, didn't he?
Also, I thought the mission was to protect us from terrorists and WMDs. I don't recall either one being in Iraq in 2003.
How much KNOWING that Iraq has no WMD worth to you? Nothing? Wouldn't it be comforting if we KNEW what Iran was up to?
Can you be a little clearer in your questions?
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Dakota wrote:
[quote=Dennis S]
[quote=swampy]
The mission was to take down Saddam. Mission Accomplished.
Bush got a little ahead of himself with the banner, then, didn't he?
Also, I thought the mission was to protect us from terrorists and WMDs. I don't recall either one being in Iraq in 2003.
How much KNOWING that Iraq has no WMD worth to you? Nothing? Wouldn't it be comforting if we KNEW what Iran was up to?
I was pretty certain Iraq had no significant amount of WMD's before we invaded. Turned out that I and many others were right about that, no need for 10's if not 100's of thousands to die, including over 4,000 of our troops. So, not worth that much to "KNOW" as you put it.
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