The GOP base is too extreme. Says.....Pat Robertson.

[beagledave]

http://youtu.be/TyQ7LaaZsds

I think I woke up in Bizarro Inside Out America.

[Filliam H. Muffman]

No kidding, me agree with him? I have been thinking along these lines ever since all the anti-abortion anti-union, anti-etc., bunch swept into to power after the election last year and are avoiding doing anything really for the country rather than pandering to a tiny vocal base.

[rjmacs]

If you think he's lost his faith, take a listen to Diane Rehm today. Podcast should be up soon.

[Grace62]

This must be the official GOP talking point du jour. Somebody needs to make sure Rick Perry gets the memo.
Haley Barbour is all over it too....

"WASHINGTON -- Among the more established and seasoned field of Republican operatives, there is a bit of concern that sideshow issues and partisan flamboyance could muddy a relatively generous 2012 electoral landscape. It's why Texas Gov. Rick Perry's decision to resuscitate skepticism over President Obama's birth certificate seems so out of place. At a time when the Texas Republican is trying to pitch his economic proposals, such as a flat tax, they believe he's trampling on his own message and hurting the party's image as well.

Sure enough, on Tuesday morning, one of the senior statesmen within the GOP, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, warned Perry and others to cut out the birther talk.

"Look, if this election is about Barack Obama's policies and the results of those policies, Barack Obama is going to lose," Barbour said after an appearance with the American Action Forum at the National Press Club. "Any other issue that gets injected to the campaign is not good for the Republicans. Republicans should want this election to be what American presidential elections have always been: a referendum on the incumbent's record. Barack Obama cannot win a second term running on his record. Zero chance. So anybody who talks about anything else is off-subject.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25...30520.html

[beagledave]

This will be one of those events where the Tea Party mentality will run up against the establishment Republican mentality.

I can't imagine Tea Party folks are going to cotton to some Republican mouthpiece(s) telling them that an issue like Birther-ism doesn't matter.

[Grace62]

beagledave wrote:
This will be one of those events where the Tea Party mentality will run up against the establishment Republican mentality.

I can't imagine Tea Party folks are going to cotton to some Republican mouthpiece(s) telling them that an issue like Birther-ism doesn't matter.

I don't know - the serious people in the Tea Party want to win, and don't want to be distracted by kook-magnet stuff like birtherism.

[DaveS]

Grace62 wrote:
This must be the official GOP talking point du jour. Somebody needs to make sure Rick Perry gets the memo.
Haley Barbour is all over it too....

"WASHINGTON -- Among the more established and seasoned field of Republican operatives, there is a bit of concern that sideshow issues and partisan flamboyance could muddy a relatively generous 2012 electoral landscape. It's why Texas Gov. Rick Perry's decision to resuscitate skepticism over President Obama's birth certificate seems so out of place. At a time when the Texas Republican is trying to pitch his economic proposals, such as a flat tax, they believe he's trampling on his own message and hurting the party's image as well.

Sure enough, on Tuesday morning, one of the senior statesmen within the GOP, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, warned Perry and others to cut out the birther talk.

"Look, if this election is about Barack Obama's policies and the results of those policies, Barack Obama is going to lose," Barbour said after an appearance with the American Action Forum at the National Press Club. "Any other issue that gets injected to the campaign is not good for the Republicans. Republicans should want this election to be what American presidential elections have always been: a referendum on the incumbent's record. Barack Obama cannot win a second term running on his record. Zero chance. So anybody who talks about anything else is off-subject.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25...30520.html

I think the Huffington Post is a little loose with its semantics....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-...3311.story

[Grace62]

DaveS wrote:
[quote=Grace62]
This must be the official GOP talking point du jour. Somebody needs to make sure Rick Perry gets the memo.
Haley Barbour is all over it too....

"WASHINGTON -- Among the more established and seasoned field of Republican operatives, there is a bit of concern that sideshow issues and partisan flamboyance could muddy a relatively generous 2012 electoral landscape. It's why Texas Gov. Rick Perry's decision to resuscitate skepticism over President Obama's birth certificate seems so out of place. At a time when the Texas Republican is trying to pitch his economic proposals, such as a flat tax, they believe he's trampling on his own message and hurting the party's image as well.

Sure enough, on Tuesday morning, one of the senior statesmen within the GOP, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, warned Perry and others to cut out the birther talk.

"Look, if this election is about Barack Obama's policies and the results of those policies, Barack Obama is going to lose," Barbour said after an appearance with the American Action Forum at the National Press Club. "Any other issue that gets injected to the campaign is not good for the Republicans. Republicans should want this election to be what American presidential elections have always been: a referendum on the incumbent's record. Barack Obama cannot win a second term running on his record. Zero chance. So anybody who talks about anything else is off-subject.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25...30520.html

I think the Huffington Post is a little loose with its semantics....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-...3311.story
How so? Perry is trying to have it both ways - keep the issue alive and offer succor to those who still want to cling to the nonsense, and at the same time try to act cool about it.

"I don't know," Perry said when asked if he believed the birth certificate was real. "I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night. ... He doesn’t think it’s real. ... I don't have any idea. It doesn't matter. [Obama is] the President of the United States. He's elected. It's a distractive issue."

[DaveS]

Grace62 wrote:
[quote=DaveS]
[quote=Grace62]
This must be the official GOP talking point du jour. Somebody needs to make sure Rick Perry gets the memo.
Haley Barbour is all over it too....

"WASHINGTON -- Among the more established and seasoned field of Republican operatives, there is a bit of concern that sideshow issues and partisan flamboyance could muddy a relatively generous 2012 electoral landscape. It's why Texas Gov. Rick Perry's decision to resuscitate skepticism over President Obama's birth certificate seems so out of place. At a time when the Texas Republican is trying to pitch his economic proposals, such as a flat tax, they believe he's trampling on his own message and hurting the party's image as well.

Sure enough, on Tuesday morning, one of the senior statesmen within the GOP, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, warned Perry and others to cut out the birther talk.

"Look, if this election is about Barack Obama's policies and the results of those policies, Barack Obama is going to lose," Barbour said after an appearance with the American Action Forum at the National Press Club. "Any other issue that gets injected to the campaign is not good for the Republicans. Republicans should want this election to be what American presidential elections have always been: a referendum on the incumbent's record. Barack Obama cannot win a second term running on his record. Zero chance. So anybody who talks about anything else is off-subject.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25...30520.html

I think the Huffington Post is a little loose with its semantics....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-...3311.story
How so? Perry is trying to have it both ways - keep the issue alive and offer succor to those who still want to cling to the nonsense, and at the same time try to act cool about it.

"I don't know," Perry said when asked if he believed the birth certificate was real. "I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night. ... He doesn’t think it’s real. ... I don't have any idea. It doesn't matter. [Obama is] the President of the United States. He's elected. It's a distractive issue."

One example:
POST: "It's why Texas Gov. Rick Perry's decision to resuscitate skepticism over President Obama's birth certificate seems so out of place."

TIMES: The GOP presidential candidate was asked by Parade magazine whether he believed that Obama was born in the United States.

Perry didn't "resuscitate" anything - he was asked a question by Parade Magazine.

[Grace62]

DaveS wrote:


One example:
POST: "It's why Texas Gov. Rick Perry's decision to resuscitate skepticism over President Obama's birth certificate seems so out of place."

TIMES: The GOP presidential candidate was asked by Parade magazine whether he believed that Obama was born in the United States.

Perry didn't "resuscitate" anything - he was asked a question by Parade Magazine.

It's his answer that caused this issue to be in the news. He could have said "that's nonsense. Of course the President is a US citizen." That would have been the end of it, no?
But instead he has to bring up the Donald and that nonsense and imply that he's not sure if the birth certificate the President says is his is real. For the governor of a US state and candidate for president to say such a thing is absurd. Perry has no one to blame but himself. Small wonder the guy is polling at around 6% this week.