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What? Jumpstarting another vehicle can possibly fry a car's computer control unit?
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On page 2 someone posts this comment: Considering most modern cars warn specifically against jumpstarting from another car due to the possibility of cooking the car's computer control unit, everyone should have a portable jumpstarter these days.

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I have jump started several neighbors vehicles, 2 that were only 3 year old. Neither has mentioned any issues to me. I have never heard of a jumpstart harming a car's computer. After researching it further, my pre heavily electronic car method of jumping a car is the correct one.

This link I found doesn't say not to jump but to make sure the donor car is off before attaching the cables. http://www.familyhandyman.com/automotive...0/view-all

You probably keep jumper cables in your vehicle so you can solicit a jump if your battery dies or offer a jump to a fellow driver. But jumping batteries on cars built after 2000 might not be so smart. That's because newer vehicles contain as many as a dozen computers and even more digital devices. Jump-starting with cables connected to a running vehicle can create a voltage surge large enough to fry expensive computers in either vehicle. And, since most of these components communicate on a shared data bus, surge damage to just one computer or digital device (even a radio) can disable the entire data bus, preventing the vehicle from starting and costing hundreds to diagnose and repair. Think about that: You can cause expensive damage to your own car simply by providing a jump to someone else.

When you connect jumper cables from a running vehicle to a dead battery, the alternator in the running vehicle instantly puts out maximum charging voltage. That can create a voltage spike of up to 15.5 volts in both vehicles. And it's that voltage spike that can fry computers and digital devices.

One way to eliminate the voltage spike is to leave the engine off in the donor car. That will prevent frying computers in the donor car. But if the car won't start right up, don't grind away to the point that you end up with dead batteries in both cars!
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#2
what are these "computer control unit" and "alternator" devices of which you speak? :oldfogey:

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#3
I turn off the car, connect the cables, then restart the car and let it charge the other car for a few minutes, then I try to start the other car. I leave the good car running until the other car starts, the I shut the good off and disconnect the cables. Just my method, no technical reason.
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#4
Boston Globe talks to some mechanics about the proper procedure and how to avoid frying computers and blowing up car batteries. http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/ar...?page=full
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#5
I would have no problem jumping another car with my 20 year old Integra. For anything made in the last 10 years, consult your owners manual. Though I may have burned out an alternator diode or two over the years jumping other cars.
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#6
Making sure everything is turned off in the dead vehicle really cuts down on arching. That includes the doors closed, because that triggers dome and courtesy lights.
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#7
My Toyota's owners manual does not recommend jump starting via cables, however I have used something like this...

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#8
It's not a big deal.

Just don't cross the streams or reverse polarity.

The bit about attaching the negative cable to a metal ground away from the battery and not on the negative terminal goes back to the open cell lead acid batteries.

When they were being charged, hydrogen gas would escape out of the caps, and it was possible that disconnecting a cable would create a spark that would ignite the hydrogen.

I saw it happen with an industrial 500A DC charger when the connector mid-cable wasn't used. I've never heard of it happening with cars, but I'm sure it's possible.

One can buy cables with an electronic interlock that prevents current flow if the polarity is incorrect, but they're a little pricey.

The only problem I ever had was when I let the driver of the dead car connect the cables on his car, and he had them backwards.

Close, but no fireworks or casualties.
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#9
Oh, it happens. I was jump starting my old '66 Mercury Comet and blew the top off the battery. Fortunately it was a cold winter day and I was well covered except for my face above my scarf. I wear glasses so the exposed area was minimal and I quickly washed what little landed on me. It happened so fast I did not even see the spark. It was very stupid because I had lots of available bare steel when I could place the clamp, unlike in many modern cars.

More cars should have remote places specifically for jumping.
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#10
I would just ask the friend to help push the car a bit so I can dump the clutch and start the car that way
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