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What happens if Trump nixes the Iran Nuclear Deal?
#1
Because Trump seems to be in the mood to do what he wants to do - dumping anyone who dares to question him and replacing them with toadies - it seems like it is getting more likely that Trump is going to nix the Iran Deal. It could really happen. If it does, what happens then?
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#2
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I didn't realize this was so flashy... my apologies to any MRFriends who have seizure disorders...


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#3
I assume that no deal means no access to check and see what they are up to. So they will continue to build their weapons program. Then war btwn Iran and Israel or Saudi Arabia or USA???

I suppose they will have to hand over all of the funds that the US unfroze (haha).

Frankly, I don't know - I'm shooting from the hip. I'm no better than Trump.
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hal wrote:
I assume that no deal means no access to check and see what they are up to. So they will continue to build their weapons program. Then war btwn Iran and Israel or Saudi Arabia or USA???

I suppose they will have to hand over all of the funds that the US unfroze (haha).

Frankly, I don't know - I'm shooting from the hip. I'm no better than Trump.

Sure you are, you spent at least two minutes giving it some thought. Trump didn't.
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#5
Our history isn't the best when dealing with states that agreed to give up nukes. Keeping the Iran deal is one of the few reasons NK might be even remotely considering a deal with the U.S. to stop nuclear development.
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#6
Most likely the UK, Russia, France, China, and Germany will continue trying to renegotiate for the supplemental agreement.
May 12 will probably come and go with a renewal of sanctions just like it did in January with another 120 day period of negotiations.
After September I expect Russia, France, China, and Germany will be going it alone.
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billb wrote:
Most likely the UK, Russia, France, China, and Germany will continue trying to renegotiate for the supplemental agreement.
May 12 will probably come and go with a renewal of sanctions just like it did in January with another 120 day period of negotiations.
After September I expect Russia, France, China, and Germany will be going it alone.

I expect that a country with a government so paranoid would never enter into another deal -- in respect of their nuclear program -- with a Western power with any intention of honoring it, knowing that it could be so easily broken by one madman.
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#8
Is Kim going to believe any deals 45 offers? or anyone else in the world.
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samintx wrote:
Is Kim going to believe any deals 45 offers? or anyone else in the world.

Sarcany wrote:
I expect that a country with a government so paranoid would never enter into another deal -- in respect of their nuclear program -- with a Western power with any intention of honoring it, knowing that it could be so easily broken by one madman.

Like Obama?
Starting the war in Libya, after Khadaffi made his no nukes deal with US in exchange for peace and security?....

https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opi...e-up-nukes
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max wrote:
[quote=samintx]
Is Kim going to believe any deals 45 offers? or anyone else in the world.

Sarcany wrote:
I expect that a country with a government so paranoid would never enter into another deal -- in respect of their nuclear program -- with a Western power with any intention of honoring it, knowing that it could be so easily broken by one madman.

Like Obama?
Trump is very much like Obama, insofar as they are both largely made of molecules and both have legs.

But otherwise, no. You've missed the mark entirely.

max wrote:
Starting the war in Libya, after Khadaffi made his no nukes deal with US in exchange for peace and security?....

The 2011 revolution was not Obama's fault. It occurred early enough into his presidency that one might reasonably infer that the bulk of the blame would fall on Obama's predecessors. Fundamentally, it was simply ready for a fall. The nation was governed by an unstable regime with a well-armed population and an unpopular tyrant to blame for their troubles. Obama's and Clinton's aggressive role in Libya after the revolution began was certainly controversial and not without blame for some of the negative outcomes, but it's also questionable whether the Arab Spring protest movement would have flowered without the protection of US forces and things have yet to play out in a way to approach objective judgment of the historical value of the intercession. The second-round 2014 war was not started by Obama, and that editorial you provided has no factual element of any relevance towards proving or disproving your statement.
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