Not that this surprises me in the least, but it's kind of sickening for Apple to come out and say it.

[datbeme]

I love Apple stuff, but my iPhone 6 is plenty good enough. In fact all of my family's phones are. I look forward to upgrading sometime down the road, but this kind of admission makes me rethink that. We joke about planned obsolescence, but it seems clear that this is Apple's primary strategy.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/2/181658...eplacement

[IronMac]

It's not planned obsolescence, it's wear and tear. If my bike's groupset (chainring, chain and cassette) starts making awful noises and misses shifts after 50,000 miles of hard riding in all sorts of weather does that mean the bike needs to be thrown away? No, it just means that some parts have worn out and needs replacing.

[M A V I C]

IronMac wrote:
It's not planned obsolescence, it's wear and tear. If my bike's groupset (chainring, chain and cassette) starts making awful noises and misses shifts after 50,000 miles of hard riding in all sorts of weather does that mean the bike needs to be thrown away? No, it just means that some parts have worn out and needs replacing.

But if those parts are proprietary and extremely expensive, would you be more likely to buy a new bike instead? Imagine if the drivetrain was glued together rather than removable by standard tools.

[cyclemax]

How is Apple different from any other company. We live in a disposable country. I doubt there are very many manufacturers that would rather you repair an item than buy new.

[datbeme]

OK. Planned obsolescence isn't the right term here, and I know we need to acknowledge wear and tear. But a functioning phone seems to be the most compelling reason for most people to upgrade—not features. I'm not dismissing those features, but a functioning phone is the impetus for many people.

Fortunately, I don't feel the need to upgrade my bike when I get a pinch flat, and I don't need to trade in my car when the breaks start squeaking.

[N-OS X-tasy!]

Gosh, I wonder how it is that nobody realized until now this would happen.

Oh, wait:

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1...sg-2209202
http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1...sg-2213753
http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1...sg-2316057

[C(-)ris]

datbeme wrote:
OK. Planned obsolescence isn't the right term here, and I know we need to acknowledge wear and tear. But a functioning phone seems to be the most compelling reason for most people to upgrade—not features. I'm not dismissing those features, but a functioning phone is the impetus for many people.

Fortunately, I don't feel the need to upgrade my bike when I get a pinch flat, and I don't need to trade in my car when the breaks start squeaking.

You would be amazed at the number of people who trade in a car instead of doing $1000 worth of work.

[Acer]

A battery should be user-replaceable in just about any consumer good with a battery that has an optimal lifespan that is likely to be less than that of the item itself. Forcing upgrades by being a d*ck about battery replacement is greedy and wasteful.

[ka jowct]

I replaced my 6 last March after 3 years of use. But I bought a refurb 7, not the then current iPhone 8. My next phone may very well be a refurb 8, if they are available when I want or need to replace the 7. The prices for the X models just make me cringe.

[Mike Johnson]

Well, there's Patagonia, and, uh...