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it's shown in this video
Aside from the terrible acting it's so cute that they are gabbing about the Raconteurs like they are some new hip unknown band. They probably are unaware the album released last May. If my memory serves I think they were featured in a previous iTunes ad.
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do you have a burning need to live in an "us vs. them" world?
Can you exist as you are without being some sort of "us" that can be defined only by your creation of a "them" group?
You came in by defining anyone who owns a Zune to be "lame"--in other words, you created, from thin air, a "them" group so that you could exist.
Why do you care? The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference or disinterest. Why in the world would you bother to chase after Zune news?
Of course, now that you've defined yourself in the context of not being one of "them," we know that you'd never reveal articles that would put the Zune into a good, or even mediocre, light. In other words, your biases are showing.
All for the sake of creating an "us" group so that you can exist.
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The Zune, as it currently exists is near useless. You can tell that a team of creative people and talented engineers worked on it, but the suits still managed to make it as mediocre as possible by the time it was released. Wireless would be neat if it was easy, worked, and didn't just let someone "test" the music. The form factor should have been re-worked before release. The thing looks like a slab carved out of clay. It must be heartbreaking for the original designers to see what it has become.
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Wireless would be neat if it was easy, worked, and didn't just let someone "test" the music.
Yeah, but that functionality that would never be approved by the record companies: they would see it as being mainly good for easy swapping and "stealing", which of course it would be.
The Wireless feature is only there to turn users into sources of free advertising.
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A Zune can share music wirelessly with an iPod? Zune users get music by pushing a button, not actually going through an online music store, setting up an account and paying for it? That's what this leads you to believe.
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1) I never said anything about any other product, so any "us vs them" implication you draw is both incorrect and a little weird. The post was purely to note the lame-ness of the video clip.
2) I never alligned myself with any product so again, "us vs. them" not really applicable.
3) My title was "If there is any doubt how lame Zune owners can be..." I wrote "CAN be," not ARE. The title does not impugn or malign ALL Zune owners categorically.
4) Your little wrist slap is rather silly...I suspect you did it all for the sake of boosting your pea sized ego so that you may exist. My condolences, but I'm glad to help a fellow human in his time of need.
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>>do you have a burning need to live in an "us vs. them" world?
either you're with us or against us!
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You came in and claimed, de facto, that Zune owners were "lame". Then you boosted your argument by saying, "And if there's any doubt..."
Do you know any Zune owners? Why are Zune owners "lame"?
You never said anything about any other product, eh? You never aligned yourself with any other product, eh? Yeah, that'll stand up in court. Face it: you and everyone else know what you were talking about.
So tell us again why, by definition, Zune owners are "lame"? And don't use this thread; remember, the article you reference is what you use to remove any doubt. No, you need to have told us first that they were "lame", and that means some sort of explanation or proof thereof.
Face it: you know I'm right, and you can't back away from it no matter what you try to say.
So why are Zune owners "lame" in the first place?
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[quote ztirffritz]The form factor should have been re-worked before release. The thing looks like a slab carved out of clay. It must be heartbreaking for the original designers to see what it has become.
The form factor WAS re-worked before release.
Or should I say "worked over."
This is what the Zune *should* have been.
Problem is, somebody at MS had the brilliant idea that the Zune's only chance to beat the iPod was to BE the ant-iPod -- it looks somewhat like it, the marketing and packaging is supposed to be "hip" like it, it's priced exactly like it. They tried to garner "grassroots" support through bloggers and "fan sites," but this was all exposed as the astroturf it was.
My only problem with all this is not that it comes from Microsoft, it's the fact that the Zune only exists to serve the interests of MS and the major record cartels -- MS wants to rule digital media for all time, and the **AA want, as Hyman Roth says in Godfather II, "a partner with whom we can do business," ie kickbacks and the ability to fark over the customers as they see fit.
There is no consumer benefit whatsoever from having this so-called "competitor" to the iPod. None.
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[quote elmo3]So why are Zune owners "lame" in the first place?
Because, other than Big Remond employees, there are very few of them.
And anyone who actually DID buy a Zune with their own money and who has no relationship to Microsoft only did so because they thought they were "rebelling" against the "iPod status quo," not because Zune is a good product.
There are plenty of other portable media players around.
Some are actually very good, and many are even better, or have a better feature set than the iPod.
Zune is not one of these players.
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