I am surprised the death rate is in a steady decline

[space-time]

Do you think they under report some deaths, or that the medical community figured out how to manage the virus better than in early days?

Anecdotal reports (not sure where I read it) is that they rushed to put many patients on ventilators, where that was not always necessary.

[sekker]

space-time wrote:
Do you think they under report some deaths, or that the medical community figured out how to manage the virus better than in early days?

Anecdotal reports (not sure where I read it) is that they rushed to put many patients on ventilators, where that was not always necessary.

The key data is the death rates for those admitted to the hospital, and death rates after ICU admission.

In both cases, that rate is dropping. Moving patients to lie on their stomachs can be has helpful as being on a ventilator. And convalescent plasma seems to be helping.

This is good news, but not 'grand opening' success.

[SteveG]

It is clearly our Great Leader's flawless
analysis, unerring insight and wise counsel
which has led us to this stunning reversal

[GGD]

NY might also be skewing the national view since it was such a large percentage of the national totals, it has been dropping rapidly since it's huge peak, possibly faster than the rest of the nation is rising, which may give a false impression that overall death rates are dropping even when outside NY/NJ they may be increasing.

[rjmacs]

Also, the CDC is working hard with states NOT to count any cases suspected of being covid-19, but without an actual positive test result.... The suppression of truth continues!

[sekker]

rjmacs wrote:
Also, the CDC is working hard with states NOT to count any cases suspected of being covid-19, but without an actual positive test result.... The suppression of truth continues!

No, please stop posting this here.

I cited real numbers that cannot be suppressed - hospitalizations and ICU cases, and the death rate of those patients.

NYC results do not explain the promising data in Texas.

Everything is dependent on the health systems not getting overwhelmed by this most recent wave.

[hal]

stolen from twitter: The US has tried to get rid of covid the way I try to get abs - I try really hard for a couple months then I get annoyed that it’s taking so long and decide abs aren’t real.

[Filliam H. Muffman]

Can't have a recorded COVID-19 death if you never test the corpse.

On June 7th, I estimated the actual number of COVID-19 deaths was 156,808.

[testcase]

I guess that's why on this morning's news, the CDC predicted the death toll will be somewhere between 124,000 and 140,000 by July 4th


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...ng-us.html

[RgrF]

You hadn't noticed a concerted effort by governments to under-count? You are totally unaware that the numbers have more to do with political issues than with health issues?

Are you seriously saying you think the numbers being reported are accurate, because if you are saying that then you are lost.