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... virologist speaks out
A rising star in the virology community, Anderson, 42, says her work on Ebola in Wuhan was the realization of a life-long career goal. Her favorite movie is “Outbreak,” the 1995 film in which disease experts respond to a dangerous new virus—a job Anderson said she wanted to do. For her, that meant working on Ebola in a high-containment laboratory.
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"“It’s not that it was boring, but it was a regular lab that worked in the same way as any other high-containment lab,” Anderson said. “What people are saying is just not how it is.”
China's zeal to safe face makes them look guiltier than they may actually be.
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One thing I get from this article is this: if the virus _did_ escape from this lab (and I think the evidence for this is slim), it almost certainly represented something like an accidental infection of a worker by a naturally occurring SARS-type coronavirus that had been brought to the lab to study, and not a bioweapon made at the lab.
That last scenario has been rejected on multiple lines of evidence; she’s just the latest to add her two bits. Yet I bet if you surveyed the wingnuts in this country, that would be their top belief.
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Sorry, originally posted to wrong thread...
Gain of Function wrote: Anderson did concede that it would be theoretically possible for a scientist in the lab to be working on a gain of function technique to unknowingly infect themselves and to then unintentionally infect others in the community. But there’s no evidence that occurred and Anderson rated its likelihood as exceedingly slim.
Yes, but there are many questions that are likely to never be answered. I have not seen enough information about WIV to know if it is possible that it escaped from a lower biosafety level laboratory near that site. One of the few whistleblowers to raise the alarm about COVID-2019 died from it after being silenced.  ecret: Not the most productive environment.
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Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
Sorry, originally posted to wrong thread...
[quote= Gain of Function] Anderson did concede that it would be theoretically possible for a scientist in the lab to be working on a gain of function technique to unknowingly infect themselves and to then unintentionally infect others in the community. But there’s no evidence that occurred and Anderson rated its likelihood as exceedingly slim.
Yes, but there are many questions that are likely to never be answered. I have not seen enough information about WIV to know if it is possible that it escaped from a lower biosafety level laboratory near that site.
Is that a rumor or just speculation on your part that such a lab exists?
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pdq wrote:
One thing I get from this article is this: if the virus _did_ escape from this lab (and I think the evidence for this is slim), it almost certainly represented something like an accidental infection of a worker by a naturally occurring SARS-type coronavirus that had been brought to the lab to study, and not a bioweapon made at the lab.
That last scenario has been rejected on multiple lines of evidence; she’s just the latest to add her two bits. Yet I bet if you surveyed the wingnuts in this country, that would be their top belief.
That last scenario has been rejected by... actual scientists/virologists, who looked at the SARS-CoV-2 genome and found no evidence that it had been bioengineered, and lots of evidence that it occurred naturally, probably starting out in a bat or pangolin: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
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Sarcany wrote:
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
Sorry, originally posted to wrong thread...
[quote= Gain of Function] Anderson did concede that it would be theoretically possible for a scientist in the lab to be working on a gain of function technique to unknowingly infect themselves and to then unintentionally infect others in the community. But there’s no evidence that occurred and Anderson rated its likelihood as exceedingly slim.
Yes, but there are many questions that are likely to never be answered. I have not seen enough information about WIV to know if it is possible that it escaped from a lower biosafety level laboratory near that site.
Is that a rumor or just speculation on your part that such a lab exists?
Is this more than speculation?
https: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology#History
" ...and also 20 BSL-2 and two BSL-3 laboratories."
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PeterB wrote:
[quote=pdq]
One thing I get from this article is this: if the virus _did_ escape from this lab (and I think the evidence for this is slim), it almost certainly represented something like an accidental infection of a worker by a naturally occurring SARS-type coronavirus that had been brought to the lab to study, and not a bioweapon made at the lab.
That last scenario has been rejected on multiple lines of evidence; she’s just the latest to add her two bits. Yet I bet if you surveyed the wingnuts in this country, that would be their top belief.
That last scenario has been rejected by... actual scientists/virologists, who looked at the SARS-CoV-2 genome and found no evidence that it had been bioengineered, and lots of evidence that it occurred naturally, probably starting out in a bat or pangolin: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
Thank you - I appreciate your knowledge in this.
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Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
[quote=Sarcany]
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
Sorry, originally posted to wrong thread...
[quote= Gain of Function] Anderson did concede that it would be theoretically possible for a scientist in the lab to be working on a gain of function technique to unknowingly infect themselves and to then unintentionally infect others in the community. But there’s no evidence that occurred and Anderson rated its likelihood as exceedingly slim.
Yes, but there are many questions that are likely to never be answered. I have not seen enough information about WIV to know if it is possible that it escaped from a lower biosafety level laboratory near that site.
Is that a rumor or just speculation on your part that such a lab exists?
Is this more than speculation?
https: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology#History
" ...and also 20 BSL-2 and two BSL-3 laboratories."
Same lab, different building/wing.
Why would level-2 or level-3 techs be working on a level-4 pathogen? Seems even more far-fetched than pretending that it escaped from a level-4 lab.
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pdq wrote:
[quote=PeterB]
[quote=pdq]
One thing I get from this article is this: if the virus _did_ escape from this lab (and I think the evidence for this is slim), it almost certainly represented something like an accidental infection of a worker by a naturally occurring SARS-type coronavirus that had been brought to the lab to study, and not a bioweapon made at the lab.
That last scenario has been rejected on multiple lines of evidence; she’s just the latest to add her two bits. Yet I bet if you surveyed the wingnuts in this country, that would be their top belief.
That last scenario has been rejected by... actual scientists/virologists, who looked at the SARS-CoV-2 genome and found no evidence that it had been bioengineered, and lots of evidence that it occurred naturally, probably starting out in a bat or pangolin: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
Thank you - I appreciate your knowledge in this.
Here's some more info of interest:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/edit...275564.php
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/...speaks-out
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