Kornacki has a good piece on the extreme gender and education divides among white Americans

[Lemon Drop]

White folk were 71% of the 2024 electorate.

If you're talking "left wing" now, it's pretty much white, college-educated women.

MAGA supporters? White guys with no degree.

We knew this, but to see the numbers is staggering. I doubt we've had this kind of cultural or political divide since the 60s, though I think it's much worse now.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/electio...rcna196791

[sekker]

The most recent Ezra Klein podcast - best watching for the visuals on YouTube - was also showing this divide.

It's actually terrible news. Traditional dems is a shrinking coalition in the USA.

[Lemon Drop]

What is a "traditional Republican?"
How's that group holding up?

Political parties do change over time.

To me it's not the realignment that is bad, it's the extreme nature of the gulf in our society. It's unprecedented in modern times.

[wurm]

MAGA supporters? White guys with no degree.

Jeebus, I'm a white guy with no degree. Please don't lump me in with those troglodytes.

[Lemon Drop]

wurm wrote:
MAGA supporters? White guys with no degree.

Jeebus, I'm a white guy with no degree. Please don't lump me in with those troglodytes.

Would never do that!

You're just on the minority side of the equation but by no means alone.

[Lizabeth]

Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=wurm]
MAGA supporters? White guys with no degree.

Jeebus, I'm a white guy with no degree. Please don't lump me in with those troglodytes.

Would never do that!

You're just on the minority side of the equation but by no means alone.
And have intelligence to participate on the forum, either side…

[gabester]

Numbers from
Cornell Roper Center - 2024
Cornell Roper Center - 2020

Demo  2024  2020  2016  2012  2008  2004  2000  1996  1992  1988  1984  1980

White  71    67    70    72    74    77    81    83    87    85    86    88

Black  11    13    12    13    13    11    10    10     8    10    10    10

Latino 11    13    11    10     9     8     7     5     2     3     3     2

Asian   3     4     4     3     2     2     2     1     1     *

Other   3     4     3     2     3     2     *          

Given the vote totals and results, it seems pretty clear that state level Republican voter suppression efforts broadly succeeded in reducing turnout just enough to tip the election to reward the Christokryptokleptikakistofascists.

[Lemon Drop]

How much of this is the result of polarization? Geographic, work, social.

How much time do you spend in person with people whose political views are the opposite of your own? Are you able to have civil discussions with them about things that matter to us all? Find common ground?

I think this is what primarily explains those numbers gabester posted and the demographics Kornacki discusses.

Americans have to reconnect with one another or this just gets worse.

[wurm]

Lizabeth wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
[quote=wurm]
MAGA supporters? White guys with no degree.

Jeebus, I'm a white guy with no degree. Please don't lump me in with those troglodytes.

Would never do that!

You're just on the minority side of the equation but by no means alone.
And have intelligence to participate on the forum, either side…
Whew...thanks!

[$tevie]

Yeah, I'm an old white lady with no degree (although I am working on that part). I get tired of reading what a stupid old racist MAGAt I am.