China's EVs are a decade or more ahead of ours...

[Tiangou]

...And that's before you factor in the myriad setbacks to charging infrastructure this year.

Video:
https://youtu.be/5zox_0rEK3U


Story:
https://www.jalopnik.com/1837170/chinese...els-video/

[Carnos Jax]

China's main advantage is their batteries. They are way ahead of the west. And batteries are what makes an EV. For that matter, he who has the best battery tech will be who rules in the next iteration of the world.

[Speedy]

You see a lot of Chinese EVs outside our borders.

[rich in distress]

Weird vid!

[Fritz]

https://news.mit.edu/2024/cobalt-free-ba...-cars-0118

"About six years ago, Dinca’s lab began working on a project, funded by Lamborghini, to develop an organic battery that could be used to power electric cars.
While working on porous materials that were partly organic and partly inorganic, Dinca and his students realized that a fully organic material they had made appeared that it might be a strong conductor."

it may be time to invest in VW who own Lambo.

forum software does not like the accent mark known as "a breve".
Used in Romanian and Vietnamese.
And Dinca

[Ombligo]

China learned from the model established two centuries ago by industrialist Andrew Carnegie. He made US Steel the world leader by embracing innovation and efficency. He even abandoned a newly built factory before it was used once because a new process was slightly more cost-efficent.

Companies like BYD are continuing to innovate and improve quality while American car companies (namely Tesla) fail to move forward. The 2025 Tesla models remain essentially unchanged since their introduction.

In the early 70s' Detroit ignored and scoffed at Japanese imports, they knew better than consumers what cars would sell. Toyota, Honda and Datsun took over the market. Today tariffs and protectionism are doing the same.

[Carnos Jax]

The Chinese are only winning this game because we are negligently allowing them to.

[mattkime]

One one hand, I'm starting to take this more seriously. On the other, its hard to believe everything stated without some range numbers.

[kj]

Yeah, I don’t know if their cars are really that much better at this time, but they are poised for a huge jump, and we are not. I think it’s mainly because the US is so averse to change, at least in certain areas. Plus, you have to realize American car companies haven’t really made a competitive car in a long fricken’ time, and that’s who we’re betting on. I think it comes down to our history of innovating and then doing nothing to nurture those innovations into products that really work. Solar is the perfect example. Maybe when you have as much as we have here, you’re naturally conservative. Why take chances when you’re comfortable?

[Wags]

kj wrote:
Yeah, I don’t know if their cars are really that much better at this time, but they are poised for a huge jump, and we are not. I think it’s mainly because the US is so averse to change, at least in certain areas. Plus, you have to realize American car companies haven’t really made a competitive car in a long fricken’ time, and that’s who we’re betting on. I think it comes down to our history of innovating and then doing nothing to nurture those innovations into products that really work. Solar is the perfect example. Maybe when you have as much as we have here, you’re naturally conservative. Why take chances when you’re comfortable?

Yup, not competitive, plus both big oil still holds sway,