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AP poll: Obama's backers are looking forward to the election
#1
...And McCain's followers are increasingly glum:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story...d=96431258

Edit with quote from story: "More McCain supporters also feel angry and bored, while Obama's are likelier to say they are proud and hopeful."
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#2
duh.
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#3
Saw that. If I was backing McCain, I'd be pretty angry, too. At him. For being such a jerk.

From the article: "Supporters of McCain cite a dislike for Obama, dissatisfaction with the campaign's tone and frustration with how news organizations have treated their candidate."

I can buy that many do not like Obama, and I can certainly understand their dissatisfaction with the tone of McCain's campaign, but I still don't understand their position about how news organizations have treated McCain. I think there was a thread on this yesterday. Personally, I can't think of what McCain has done that's newsworthy and also positive. Is the media really biased against him? Or has he done little to generate news that is positive? At this point I can't quite tell, because, of course, I have my own bias.
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AlphaDog wrote: I can buy that many do not like Obama, and I can certainly understand their dissatisfaction with the tone of McCain's campaign, but I still don't understand their position about how news organizations have treated McCain. I think there was a thread on this yesterday. Personally, I can't think of what McCain has done that's newsworthy and also positive. Is the media really biased against him? Or has he done little to generate news that is positive? At this point I can't quite tell, because, of course, I have my own bias.

i find than many conservatives operate from a siege mentality. any information that contradicts their view of the world is perceived as biased and unfounded. on my homeschooling forum, many posters keep bringing up that Obama is Muslim or his birth certificate is fake and he's not a US citizen. links to neutral sources invalidating these claims are summarily dismissed a part of the liberal left conspiracy be it snopes or factcheck or The National Review. absolutely mind boggling to me.

i know my liberal coterie has strong beliefs but i don't think that, despite our teasing here, we really wallow quite that deep in the kool-aid. or maybe i just can't see it.
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graylocks wrote: i know my liberal coterie has strong beliefs but i don't think that, despite our teasing here, we really wallow quite that deep in the kool-aid. or maybe i just can't see it.

There are a number of ways in which "liberal" is defined, but I think many of us here operate from these bases:

"Tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition."

Or: "Traditionally, the word liberal means to be open to new ideas and tolerant of others."

In other words, it's our nature to accept people for who they are and what they believe. These characteristics are quite at odds with many of those who are McCain's staunchest right wing supporters. Generally, I don't feel threatened by those who hold beliefs unlike mine, whereas, the "other" side seems to feel very threatened by the likes of me. I do have to admit this campaign has provided me with a lot of scary moments when I see and hear the level of intolerance expressed by some of those from the other side. Frankly I am now feeling more frightened of McCain's supporters than I am of him. I don't want them to score a win for small mindedness.
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AlphaDog wrote:
Saw that. If I was backing McCain, I'd be pretty angry, too. At him. For being such a jerk.

From the article: "Supporters of McCain cite a dislike for Obama, dissatisfaction with the campaign's tone and frustration with how news organizations have treated their candidate."

I can buy that many do not like Obama, and I can certainly understand their dissatisfaction with the tone of McCain's campaign, but I still don't understand their position about how news organizations have treated McCain. I think there was a thread on this yesterday. Personally, I can't think of what McCain has done that's newsworthy and also positive. Is the media really biased against him? Or has he done little to generate news that is positive? At this point I can't quite tell, because, of course, I have my own bias.

I could have written this. I've been accused of bias even though I basically still consider Obama the lesser of two evils. I really would have preferred two good choices, and was ready to not demonize the republican this time around, but they've been truly horrible. The bulk of the McCain/Palin campaign strategy has been a codified appeal to racism and xenophobia. Yuck.
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Black Landlord wrote:
[quote=AlphaDog]
Saw that. If I was backing McCain, I'd be pretty angry, too. At him. For being such a jerk.

From the article: "Supporters of McCain cite a dislike for Obama, dissatisfaction with the campaign's tone and frustration with how news organizations have treated their candidate."

I can buy that many do not like Obama, and I can certainly understand their dissatisfaction with the tone of McCain's campaign, but I still don't understand their position about how news organizations have treated McCain. I think there was a thread on this yesterday. Personally, I can't think of what McCain has done that's newsworthy and also positive. Is the media really biased against him? Or has he done little to generate news that is positive? At this point I can't quite tell, because, of course, I have my own bias.

I could have written this. I've been accused of bias even though I basically still consider Obama the lesser of two evils. I really would have preferred two good choices, and was ready to not demonize the republican this time around, but they've been truly horrible. The bulk of the McCain/Palin campaign strategy has been a codified appeal to racism and xenophobia. Yuck.
Does this mean you're close to making a decision? Smile
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AlphaDog wrote:
[quote=Black Landlord]
[quote=AlphaDog]
Saw that. If I was backing McCain, I'd be pretty angry, too. At him. For being such a jerk.

From the article: "Supporters of McCain cite a dislike for Obama, dissatisfaction with the campaign's tone and frustration with how news organizations have treated their candidate."

I can buy that many do not like Obama, and I can certainly understand their dissatisfaction with the tone of McCain's campaign, but I still don't understand their position about how news organizations have treated McCain. I think there was a thread on this yesterday. Personally, I can't think of what McCain has done that's newsworthy and also positive. Is the media really biased against him? Or has he done little to generate news that is positive? At this point I can't quite tell, because, of course, I have my own bias.

I could have written this. I've been accused of bias even though I basically still consider Obama the lesser of two evils. I really would have preferred two good choices, and was ready to not demonize the republican this time around, but they've been truly horrible. The bulk of the McCain/Palin campaign strategy has been a codified appeal to racism and xenophobia. Yuck.
Does this mean you're close to making a decision? Smile
Honestly, I don't know who I'm voting for for president.
It's down to 2 choices though.
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#9
Well said alphadog. It really pains me to see/hear so many hateful things. I don't get it. And I'm glad I don't.
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#10
Opps - messed up my post, fixed it below.
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