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Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - August West - 04-02-2013
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More instructive than all the "lefties." Check the US numbers. Roughly 2/3 of total homicides in US from guns in 2010.
Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - Spock - 04-02-2013
The propaganda arm of the small arms industry (NRA) think that more guns are the answer. Quelle surprise!
Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - Mac-A-Matic - 04-03-2013
cbelt3 wrote:
Alternative #1 - Fully disarm the nation. Mass murder is impossible without the tools.
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Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - SDGuy - 04-03-2013
Acer wrote:
Feel free to post the relevant statistics.
So we post misleading statistics - what's the big deal?
August West wrote:
How is this instructive to you?
How does noticing that we like to cherry-pick data tell you something about how we like to operate?
August West wrote:
More instructive than all the "lefties." Check the US numbers. Roughly 2/3 of total homicides in US from guns in 2010.
Clearly there are absolutely no other cultural or societal factors at play, the only possible use of firearms is to commit murder, and if they didn't exist, potential murderers would be forced to ineffectually point their fingers at their intended victims and make "bang bang" noises with their mouth, and watch helplessly as their intended targets run away
Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - Surfrider - 04-03-2013
"Arkansas' future governor, Asa Hutchinson, is involved in this. If there ever was a bigger POS politician, I'd like to know who. I guarantee y'all that there will end up being compulsory NRA-sponsored "training" sessions for the schools, for which the NRA will get the government to pay for. The graft and corruption will be on such a scale to rival Halliburton. There will end up more deaths and injuries than if the guards had never been there."
:agree:
Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - hal - 04-03-2013
Mac-A-Matic wrote:
Again... Why do you think this looks good? It doesn't.
Look at all of those countries where people are safer from murder than in the USA... Hurray! We're safer than Columbia! And we're just as safe as Iraq, Libya and Iran, but not as safe as Egypt or Yemen or China.
You're happy about that? It's disgraceful!
Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - Mac-A-Matic - 04-03-2013
hal wrote:
Again... Why do you think this looks good? It doesn't.
You're happy about that? It's disgraceful!
Guess you just don't grasp that the two maps presented are somehow connected...
Mac-A-Matic wrote:
Mac-A-Matic wrote:
...many of these "civilized and advanced" nations with low homicide rates also fall into the 30 to 50 firearms per 100 people category, while the more violent nations (meaning those with higher homicide rates than the USA) tend to fall into the 0.1 to 10 or 10 to 30 firearms per 100 people category.
Taking these basic numbers, it would seem that a certain level of gun ownership contributes to general public safety, while a low rate of gun ownership contributes to a greaterhomicide numberpublic danger.
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Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - Spock - 04-03-2013
SDGuy wrote:
[quote=Acer]
Feel free to post the relevant statistics.
So we post misleading statistics - what's the big deal?
August West wrote:
How is this instructive to you?
How does noticing that we like to cherry-pick data tell you something about how we like to operate?
August West wrote:
More instructive than all the "lefties." Check the US numbers. Roughly 2/3 of total homicides in US from guns in 2010.
Clearly there are absolutely no other cultural or societal factors at play, the only possible use of firearms is to commit murder, and if they didn't exist, potential murderers would be forced to ineffectually point their fingers at their intended victims and make "bang bang" noises with their mouth, and watch helplessly as their intended targets run away
SDGuy, if you realy think that those are accurate restatements of the original comments seek medical help, you are delusional.
Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - August West - 04-03-2013
SDGuy wrote:
[quote=Acer]
Feel free to post the relevant statistics.
So we post misleading statistics - what's the big deal?
August West wrote:
How is this instructive to you?
How does noticing that we like to cherry-pick data tell you something about how we like to operate?
August West wrote:
More instructive than all the "lefties." Check the US numbers. Roughly 2/3 of total homicides in US from guns in 2010.
Clearly there are absolutely no other cultural or societal factors at play, the only possible use of firearms is to commit murder, and if they didn't exist, potential murderers would be forced to ineffectually point their fingers at their intended victims and make "bang bang" noises with their mouth, and watch helplessly as their intended targets run away
Well I have no idea your point is. Good luck with your communication skills in the future.
Re: Is this the Founding Fathers' vision? Armed guards in schools? - Black - 04-03-2013
When I first came to this forum SDguy seemed to be on a passionate mission to disprove climate change.... he kind of cycles like this, I think. Could be seasonal, but I haven't paid close attention.