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Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - 3d - 06-28-2018
It's part of the game. If it's your team, you laugh about it. If it's the opponent you curse about it. Then move on. In some cultures lying, bribery and corruption is a part of every day life. It happens. Laugh about it. Curse about it. Move on.
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - 3d - 06-28-2018
I have much more of an issue with the disgusting blatant racism surrounding international soccer. Flopping is a distant second. Again, it goes back to culture, unfortunately.
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - cbelt3 - 06-28-2018
It's an absurd bit of theater. I often wonder if it's added to give more entertainment to what can be a rather boring sport.
What they need is a 'shot clock' . You've got 1 minute to take a kick on goal or the opposing team gets the ball.
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - pRICE cUBE - 06-28-2018
I find the level of flopping frequency exceeds all other sports I have viewed by far. I do not observe this kind of behavior with women's soccer. I actually enjoy watching and taking pictures of women's soccer due to the flopping issue.
I'd like to see retroactively issues carding for flopping. Officials can review games and issue cards to players depending on what the flopping call caused. A player will miss games if they are constantly found to be flopping.
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - Pat - 06-28-2018
Premier League has instituted anti flopping rules including retroactive penalties/suspensions.
Scottish Premier has had it longer.
Up to the organizing/governing/sanctioning body to implement and enforce the rules. Premier league rules don't apply to UEFA competitions, neither of whose rules apply to FIFA international play.
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - btfc - 06-28-2018
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/6/21/17463816/world-cup-soccer-football-diving-flopping-faking
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/06/dissecting-american-soccers-hatred-of-the-flop-is-a-world-cup-tradition/372839/
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - davester - 06-28-2018
Dives (what you're calling flopping) are common in many sports (soccer, hockey, basketball are the main ones). They are most common as a tactic in soccer because the risk/reward ratio is very low. Notably, FIFA has been upping the risk by adding video review to the referee's toolbox (which also means that they can more easily card a diving player) and changing the rules to allow after-the-fact punishments (two game suspensions for divers) and retraction of punishments given to players who were victimized by the dive. This has reduced the amount of diving. They are also talking about reducing the reward (i.e. moving the penalty spot back so the chances of a goal from a penalty shot are reduced).
However, as in all sports, breaking rules (such as deliberate fouling and diving in basketball) based on the risk/reward ratio is simply a tactic. All players in professional games break the rules to the maximum extent possible consistent with the odds being in their favor of getting away with it enough to have it make a positive effect on the outcome. It would be foolish to play any other way. Those who demonize any particular rule-breaking tactic should just stick to amateur sports. I play amateur soccer, and when people start diving or holding in such a way as to deceive the referee, they very quickly are accused of using "professional fouls" and are asked to leave the field. A professional foul is a thing, and whereas it is expected in a professional game where money and spectator entertainment are the biggest factors, it is completely inappropriate in an amateur game where sportsmanship and fair competition are paramount.
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - NewtonMP2100 - 06-28-2018
.....thought this would be about them....'flopping' in their soccer shorts.......
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - $tevie - 06-28-2018
I don’t see that much flopping in EPL games, which is what I follow. It seems to be more of a FIFA thing.
Re: Serious question for avid followers of professional men's soccer/futbol regarding flopping - ztirffritz - 06-28-2018
