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Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - vision63 - 05-07-2023
Also,
It's not just how they beat Hillary,
It's how they destroy John Kerry using basically the same methods. Even a man can work his whole life to be as flawless a human being as is naturally possible and have a hundred tails pinned onto his ass. They took a hero and played him to be the most corrupt person in the history of the military.
Al Gore the most boring human being on earth. They set up a narrative and it becomes a reason for us to sit on our butts and just let people like Ralph Nader roast him incessantly. Al did himself no favors tapping Lieberman's raggedy butt for veep.
But Bill Clinton ran using his left fist while punching out a rouge's gallery of incoming missiles seeking his heat signature.
Poor Michael Dukakis, he was simply failed by the people. Nobody voted, Everybody wallowing in peace times.
Now Biden is chock full of flaws despite running the presidency with the precision of a Swiss Clock. Biden should shout out "Come with me if you want to live!"
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - Fritz - 05-07-2023
Bill Maher is one of the most dangerous "pundocrats" there is.
And a smart a$$ fkg egomaniac what loves to hear himself speak.
But, yea, the unfounded lies were endless.
However, that should have been a clue to HRC, the dems and/or her campaign to improve her public speaking.
An extremely smart, well read and militarily aware person who would have been a great prez.
I disagree. There is NOTHING existential about the threat of [ ], in the past, present or future.
Nor it's illegitimate offspring that currently
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - SDGuy - 05-07-2023
samintx wrote:
Poll numbers so bad. We can’t have another 4 years of ORANGE.
Had to look this up...
"Former President Trump leads President Biden by 7 points in a hypothetical 2024 matchup between the two...The Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 49 percent of Americans said they would definitely or probably vote for Trump or are leaning toward casting their ballots for him in a hypothetical matchup with Biden in 2024...42 percent said they would definitely or probably vote for Biden or are leaning toward supporting him in 2024.
When asked who they would vote for if Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis were the Republican nominee...the governor also led the president by 7 points. The poll released Sunday found that 48 percent said they would definitely or probably vote for DeSantis or would lean toward voting for him, while 41 percent said the same thing for Biden."
Given the nearly same percentages, I think this can more accurately be read as Biden has a committed 41-42%, and 48-49% just want a change of some sort. But there's almost a year and a half until the election - a lot can happen.
I think it will all hinge on whatever happens with the economy; James Carville had it right in 1992 - "It's the economy, stupid"; in hindsight, the 1992 recession was one of the mildest of all time, (and I think GHWB knew that, and acted accordingly) - but the public wants hand-holding and empathy.
Likewise - think back to pre-COVID: the economy was booming. I actually remember one of my co-workers asking me sometime in late 2019 if there was anything that could derail Trump's re-election, and I told him that I think the only thing would be the economy; fast-forward a year: COVID definitely gut-punched the economy and Trump fell.
So - likewise for Biden. Unless something else big happens to grab the headlines, I think however the economy is doing in October 2024 will decide the outcome of the election.
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - vision63 - 05-07-2023
Fritz wrote:
Bill Maher is one of the most dangerous "pundocrats" there is.
And a smart a$$ fkg egomaniac what loves to hear himself speak.
But, yea, the unfounded lies were endless.
However, that should have been a clue to HRC, the dems and/or her campaign to improve her public speaking.
An extremely smart, well read and militarily aware person who would have been a great prez.
I disagree. There is NOTHING existential about the threat of [ ], in the past, present or future.
Nor it's illegitimate offspring that currentlyruinsrules Fla.
Bill is an intelligent guy overall, but sometimes when people talk talk talk for a living, eventually, they're going to take some bad turns. He is what you said he is but outside of my concerns, he's got his lane.
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - graylocks - 05-07-2023
An episode of The Daily last week discussed how the Dems are feeling the electoral math favors Biden. The key states are Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nevada. Electorally if the Dems win just one of those we're in. The Republicans have to win all three to win. That's the read now and assuming nothing catastrophic occurs. It was the 4/46 podcast.
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - Lemon Drop - 05-07-2023
graylocks wrote:
An episode of The Daily last week discussed how the Dems are feeling the electoral math favors Biden. The key states are Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nevada. Electorally if the Dems win just one of those we're in. The Republicans have to win all three to win. That's the read now and assuming nothing catastrophic occurs. It was the 4/46 podcast.
Yep, I've heard that other places too. I think the White House is safe for 24, hopefully that brongs the Senate along too.
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - vision63 - 05-07-2023
Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=graylocks]
An episode of The Daily last week discussed how the Dems are feeling the electoral math favors Biden. The key states are Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nevada. Electorally if the Dems win just one of those we're in. The Republicans have to win all three to win. That's the read now and assuming nothing catastrophic occurs. It was the 4/46 podcast.
Yep, I've heard that other places too. I think the White House is safe for 24, hopefully that brongs the Senate along too.
Fingers crossed on the Senate. Sometimes you enjoy a pickup by accident. I'ma check out the podcast. We can't lose the presidency or it's all over.
I shouldn't say that since it's emotion talking. This country has overcome every challenge it's ever faced. I'm sure it will continue to no matter what happens.
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - hal - 05-07-2023
I don't understand why everyone thinks AZ senate seat is an easy win for the repubs - repubs haven't been doing great in statewide AZ elections recently.
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - Ted King - 05-07-2023
hal wrote:
I don't understand why everyone thinks AZ senate seat is an easy win for the repubs - repubs haven't been doing great in statewide AZ elections recently.
I haven't said I think it will be an "easy" win but rather that it is more likely to be a Republican win. Sinema says she will run as an independent. I don't think she will draw much away from the Republican nominee but will almost certainly fragment a significant enough vote away from the Democratic nominee to make it unlikely that the Democratic nominee can win.
Re: Isn’t some Dem going to step forward? - Fritz - 05-07-2023
"James Carville had it right in 1992 - "It's the economy, stupid"
yup, and most of the voting public only listens to what pundits say about it. Pundits who can no longer sell ciggies, but can still hawk bad pharma and diapers.
After economy, seems from my righty freinds, immigrants taking jobs from Americans that Americans won't do.