Here's a giant load of BS-

[Acer]

I keep my Verizon router in a cardboard box in the closet. They are welcome to it. I don't think I had it hooked up for any longer than 10 minutes after the tech left.

[Robert M]

Acer,

Verizon DSL or FIOS? I use the Verizon router because it's designed for the FIOS service. I could easily purchase one and will do so if/when they start charging a monthly fee for it. In the meantime, it's performed admirably so I don't see any reason to not use it. The fact that it has MoCa built into it has proven very handy.

Robert

[Acer]

Robert M wrote:
Acer,

Verizon DSL or FIOS? I use the Verizon router because it's designed for the FIOS service. I could easily purchase one and will do so if/when they start charging a monthly fee for it. In the meantime, it's performed admirably so I don't see any reason to not use it. The fact that it has MoCa built into it has proven very handy.

Robert

I have FiOS. Verizon's was a wired router (which is what the deal was for at the time. I adopted FiOS almost immediately after it became available) and of course I moved to wireless. Not sure what the "designed" part adds. It's just a Cat-5 cable where it comes out of the wall and into my router and the service rarely blips. I had an Apple Airport on it for a couple years, and when that went bad I installed a NetGear. I don't see any performance issues (well, aside from some very recent 5G radio sketchiness that I presume is interference related.)

[MikeF]

If you have a coaxial input to your "was-free" router, it will be far more expensive to find a suitable coaxial-to-ethernet bridge and ethernet router than just succumbing to their intimidationrecommendation on the new router.

Or figure you've got about 1 to 1-1/2 years to figure something else out before the monthly cost exceeds the "recommended" item purchase price...

[mikebw]

MikeF wrote:
If you have a coaxial input to your "was-free" router, it will be far more expensive to find a suitable coaxial-to-ethernet bridge and ethernet router than just succumbing to their intimidationrecommendation on the new router.

Or figure you've got about 1 to 1-1/2 years to figure something else out before the monthly cost exceeds the "recommended" item purchase price...

The supplied Verizon FiOS router does have a coaxial input. A friend (who also has FiOS) has bypassed that by having Verizon enable the Ethernet port on the ONT, and then connecting a Buffalo router directly to that. He's actually offered to give me his unused FiOS router which just happens to be of the same vintage that Verizon is offering to sell me! Just need to work out provisioning of the new device. OR maybe I go his route since I am not using FiOS for TV either.

[JoeH]

mikebw wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
This is what class action lawsuits are designed to prevent. Unfortunately, your local cable monopoly has a service agreement that you signed that allows them to raise prices on everything, no reason needed. Best to just bend over and take it.

Well I may have already agreed to their terms, but there is no monopoly here. I am just exponentially more averse to the Comcrap alternative.
And what service agreement would that be? Never signed any agreements with any of the cable companies I have done business with over the last several decades, and I understand that is common around the country.

P.S. Here the choice is Comcast, Comcast, and Comcast. Looks and smells like a monopoly to me.

[mikebw]

Last time I changed my service with FiOS they had me verbally sign to the terms over the phone, which they were supposedly recording.

[Onamuji]

http://arstechnica.com/information-techn...d-routers/

Verizon confirmed the change to DSLReports, saying that the notice was sent to customers using the BHR1 and BHR2 routers. "Many of these routers have been in use for nearly ten years and have required more frequent repairs, so we’re trying to reduce that maintenance load and expense," Verizon said.

Customers getting this e-mail were also told they can "upgrade to a certified, pre-owned FiOS Advanced Wi-Fi Router" for a one-time purchase of $59.99 with free shipping. But some customers discussing the change in a DSLReports forum thread say it's sometimes possible to get a newer router for free by calling Verizon or asking on the Verizon Direct forum. One customer who followed this advice says Verizon promised to send an Actiontec router that doesn't require a maintenance fee. The Actiontec model isn't the newest one Verizon pitches to customers, but it's new enough that it hasn't been discontinued by the manufacturer.

New FiOS customers are told that they can rent an FiOS Quantum Gateway for $10 a month or buy it outright for $150. This is Verizon's most up-to-date model, with 802.11ac Wi-Fi technology.

You can also buy the FiOS Quantum Gateway from Amazon for $134 or an older Actiontec model. If you buy one outright, you'll avoid the maintenance fee—at least until it's "discontinued."

[mikebw]

Thanks Doc.

[Robert M]

Acer,

We have FIOS Internet and TV and the TV service relies on features of the router for proper functionality. I believe it is the MoCa features. The common router doesn't have MoCa built into it.

Robert